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Recent content by surrender1

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    The "coming of the son of man" already took place?

    Mt. 16 says the coming of the son of man includes the son of man coming in the glory of his father with his angels at which point will repay each man for his deeds. So this can't be about Jesus simply "coming on a ministry mission".
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    The "coming of the son of man" already took place?

    The "coming of the son of man" event isn't Jesus' physical return and physical resurrection of all souls.
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    The "coming of the son of man" already took place?

    Are you familiar with the "coming of the son of man" imagery in Daniel 7? It gives this scene where one like the son of man was taken on the clouds of heaven to the "Ancient of Days" to receive a kingdom. This son of man figure symbolizes oppressed Israel and his coming on the clouds represents...
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    The "coming of the son of man" already took place?

    What makes you think Mt. 16 isn't also the coming of the son of man event spoken of in Mt. 10? In Mt. 10:22 Jesus tells them "the one who has endured to the end will be saved." Mt. 23:34 says that he's sending them out and they will be killed and crucified and scourged in the synagogues and...
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    The "coming of the son of man" already took place?

    It's in more than one place where Jesus tells them they'd live to see the "coming of the son of man" event.
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    The "coming of the son of man" already took place?

    The "coming of the son of man" event is not the physical return of Christ at the resurrection. It can't be because when Jesus talks about this "coming of the son of man event" he speaks to them as if they would live to see it.
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    The "coming of the son of man" already took place?

    I learned it in scripture where it's written that Jesus told them that some of them would live to see the coming of the son of man. Matthew 10:23 Matthew 16:28
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    The "coming of the son of man" already took place?

    Jesus speaks of the "coming of the son of man" event in the same context of repaying each man for their deeds.
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    The "coming of the son of man" already took place?

    Yes. That still doesn't answer the question. Jesus said some would live to see the coming of the son of man. And in the passage you quote (along with Mt. 10) we see Jesus' instructions to them laced with urgency. They shouldn't carry unnecessary items when traveling from town to town, they...
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    The "coming of the son of man" already took place?

    Some might die within six days? That doesn't sound right. And how was the transfiguration him coming "in the glory of his father with angels"? He also connects the coming of the son of man with repaying each man according to his deeds.
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    The "coming of the son of man" already took place?

    But how is that coming in glory of his father with angels and repaying each man according to his deeds? (Mt. 16:27)
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    The "coming of the son of man" already took place?

    How is that coming in glory of his father with angels and repaying each man according to his deeds? (Mt. 16:27)
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    The "coming of the son of man" already took place?

    I don't think there's a contradiction. I believe Jesus when he said they'd see it in their lifetime.
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    The "coming of the son of man" already took place?

    There is no contradiction. Jesus said they'd see the coming of the son of man and so I'm sure they did.