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Recent content by Sammael

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    So... Did the Bible fall from the sky???

    In the late fourth century A.D. the Pope commissioned the standardization of the canon. Begining in Rome and comencing later in Constantinople a meeting of church (Western) officials and theologiens got together. They sat down and debated over the thousands-upon-thousands of pages of text...
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    Is the Bible perfect?

    .... The inerrancy argument at it's most basic form must include at least the three following points: 1. Elohim is perfect 2. The Word is from Elohim 3. therefore, the Word is perfect This is a logical argument form. This structure in argument form is called an Appeal to Authority, and is a...
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    why satan

    Umm… Here: www3.iath.virginia.edu/anderson/vita/pericopes/per5.html This is probably the quickest and easiest link I can grab right now to cover at least the four I mentioned. Sorry I don’t have enough posts to provide an active link. You will need to copy/paste
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    Is the Bible perfect?

    No I think fact is verifiable, testable, and just that.... fact. Truth (as you refer to it, in a religous construct) is morally subjectable and therefore scientifically ambiguous by it's very nature. Morality is contextual and nonlinear, fact is not. Problem? What problem?
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    why satan

    A short specific list would include 4 texts from the apocrypha: Text Attributed to Peter of Alexandria Encomium on Michael Cave of Treasures Third Baruch They corroborate the verses in Isaiah and I assume you meant to refer to Ezekiel 28:11-19(?)
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    Here's Some Helpful Tips When Questioning Evolution

    I know I must be reading this wrong.... You are saying that you don't make assumptions about things which you don't have experience with, and that are not based on fact.... and that is your motive to accept creation? That can't be right. Did I miss something back in the thread?
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    why satan

    Satan's sin was his refusal to bow before man as the likeness and image of Elohim and the greatest of Elohim's creation. Satan reasoned that he had come first, and was ethereally superior as man had come from dust, and himself fashioned from fire. He refused, and was subsequently cast down by...
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    was it an apple?

    If you read the Apocrypha it states that it was a fig. I agree with the others though, what the fruit was is not of much signifigance when compared to what it represented.
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    Just because "A", that doesn't mean "B"

    Just because evolution describes a chemical and biological process doesn't mean it has any correlation with Elohim whatsoever. Just because evolution is supported by decades of experimental biology results, thousands of scientific journal essay entries, millions of scientists, and has for the...
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    Is the Bible perfect?

    There is a reason the journalistic and scientific communities use a primary source whenever possible… this has proven to be the most reliable way to properly covey the implications of the initial idea. So why is it when we turn our attentions to the Scripture, sources fourth, fifth, and...
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    Immunisation good or bad?

    ...and if her children are mamed, deformed, crippled, or killed from one of the afflictions from which they were intended to be immunized.... then what? It will be a sad day when "It's against my religion" is a valid legal defense for child endangerment, neglect, or possible filicide...