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    Prisonchaplain reads BoM - observations

    Well I was asking the member, and he suggested the manuals. Then another mentioned the Zoramites and posted a short article on them. So, I'm gleaning where I can.
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    Prisonchaplain reads BoM - observations

    I do sense that LDS today are less scandalized by the professional clergy in most Christian churches. On the other hand, I would be surprised if there did not remain a sense of pride in the all-volunteer teaching and administerating that drives most of LDS wards and stakes. Sadly, a few of our...
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    Prisonchaplain reads BoM - observations

    I'd say I did. It's been suggested that I should look to church manuals for explication, particularly of the issues raised here. Would you agree.
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    Prisonchaplain reads BoM - observations

    OK...so I prayed for wisdom and discernment--perhaps an evangelical version of the Moroni challenge. I went through it in one setting, skim-reading, focussing on the flow, on general events, and on any noteworthy passages. I did not gain any testimony to the book's veracity, but I found a few...
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    The Trinity & Premortal Existence

    If the Godhead is three substances, rather than one, then it becomes so much harder to defend the faith as being a monotheistic one. Even we trinitarians have an admittedly difficult time convincing Muslims and Jews that our belief in one God who is three persons can be called faith in one God...
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    The Trinity & Premortal Existence

    With pun intended, the difference between the Holy Trinity the LDS Godhead is substantial. But, I would no more deny the sincerity of an LDS God-seeker than I would a Muslim one or a Jewish one. Everyone who sincerely seeks God will find Him. So, there is no need to err either on the side of...
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    The Trinity & Premortal Existence

    If you reconsider my post in context, imho you would not need to resent what I said. My guess is that you overinterpet my point--especially in your bolded summary. My argument was that you can more easily accept the LDS Godhead, with its three separate personages, as still being one God, because...
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    The Trinity & Premortal Existence

    There is an aspect of God, whether the Godhead of your church or the Trinity of mine, that is beyond us--that is mystery. Since we are secure in our faiths, we find that reality to be encouraging. God is bigger than we are. He is more. And He's on my side. So, that's good. And, we can...
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    one God or three=whats your answer

    Since the host of the board is Trinitarian, it's the probability of this type of a post that probably led the powers that be to migrate the thread. As to the opinion...It's an understandable one, but also one that condemns nearly 2000 years of Christian teaching, tradition, practice and...
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    The Trinity & Premortal Existence

    Ran77 & Softspoken, taking your two explanations together, you seem to be saying the following: 1. God is perfect. He was once a man, meaning one of two possibilities. A. God the Father, once died for the sins of creation, just as Jesus died for ours. He then resurrected. B. The Father...
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    The Trinity & Premortal Existence

    So, God progressed in his nature until He became perfect, and then, he only progressed in terms of his works? I want to be sure I have this right. Today, God is all-knowing--and yet He is not omnipresent? Is that right?
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    The Trinity & Premortal Existence

    Well, let's see if I'm understanding. Do you believe that God DID progress, in his nature, UNTIL He became perfect? If so, NOW that God is perfect, He only "progresses" in terms of his continuing to DO (creating, etc.)? Was God always perfect? I understood the part of Snow's couplet that says...
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    The Trinity & Premortal Existence

    If we agree, that is great. I wonder how this is so, though. How can God both progress and be perfect? Is it your belief that the Father's spirit is both embodied and free to be omnipresent? That doesn't seem possible. And again, how can God progress if He is already all-knowing? Do you...
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    The Trinity & Premortal Existence

    The idea of God is quite different in the two theologies. Trinitarians worship a God who is all-powerful, everywhere present, and who is all-knowing. He is unfathomable. We embrace the mystery, and find comfort in a God who is so completely awesome. He alone is eternal, and while He may...
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    The Trinity & Premortal Existence

    Philippians 2 begins with a discourse on humility. The Apostle Paul uses Jesus' CONDESCENSION as an example. He humbled himself, becoming a little lower than the angels in order to dwell among us. Was He fully God? Yes, He remained so. However, he willingly restrained himself, forsaking his...
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