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Recent content by logichopper

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    Are Mormons Christian? Is Warren Jeffs Mormon?

    So isn't a Mormon one who believes in the Book of Mormon? I know that Jeff's is a believer in the Book of Mormon. I am wondering what Jeff's has done in his day that Smith did not do in his. Many within the church that Smith founded, and most outside the mormon church at that time, concluded...
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    Pope John Paul II "proxy baptised" by LDS Church

    AeonJ & urbanlemur2005, Thanks for your replies. I was hoping our well informed LDS posters would actually anwser the questions directly. Again, are there any LDS posters who would be willing to answer the questions that urbanlemur2005 responded to? Since it was the LDS church that allowed...
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    Pope John Paul II "proxy baptised" by LDS Church

    First off, for all the LDS memebers who replied thanks. But what I was really looking for were answers to the above questions first. This was not a thread about LDS policy, but rather some very candid questions with respect to the Catholic Pope and the LDS church (or it's members) apparent...
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    Pope John Paul II "proxy baptised" by LDS Church

    I have read where belated Pope JP II has now had the baptism for the dead submitted for him into the LDS Church ? I'm just wondering if there is anything more offensive than to do this? First off, has there been anyone more well read and studied in ones faith than John Paul? Certainly not...
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    Did Joseph Smith leave us cues?

    Now there's a response that would garner some respect from the intellectual members here!!!!!
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    Did Joseph Smith leave us cues?

    Great, another emotional testimony that "I know Joseph Smith is a Prophet" Sorry, this is where the buck has to stop with this mormon nonsense. Evidence is and has been presented which has been of absoluteley zero credibility. That is what most of these threads have been about...
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    Did Joseph Smith leave us cues?

    Now we got the "tag-team" of Doc T & Sherman!!! Can I ask you guys/gals a question: Are you related? Based on some of the answers you give, I would swear their is some similar DNA amongst you. Any truth to that observation? This is classic Dan Peterson "coatailing". [Doc, how big is the...
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    Did Joseph Smith leave us cues?

    If any of these points were taken seriously outside of the few isolated mormon apologetics that like to dwell on them in academic and theological isolation, Parry, Peterson, and Welch might be able to get the professional archaeological world to take them with at least a passing minimal...
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    History vs the Book of Mormon

    AeonJ, Baker is right that no one accepts the BOM historicity claims outside of the mormon apologetic world. Doc T has done a lot of meaningless pontificating, most of which is merely a cut and paste job from the two bookends of "arguments in isolation", Dan Peterson and Bill Hamblin. These...
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    1 Nephi 14 -- Any LDS Official Explanation?

    Ran, So is it fair to say that you believe those who are not members of the LDS church are members of the "Church of the Devil"? If you believe your church doctrine, why be afraid to admitt that?
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    History vs the Book of Mormon

    AeonJ, The real question to ask is: "Has there been any 'credible or convincing' historical evidence to support the BOM at all". Swart's link to Jeff Lindsay is but another emotional mormon apologetic who has not convinced any secular scholars that the "history" claim of the BOM can even...
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    1 Nephi 14 -- Any LDS Official Explanation?

    And I think the entire Christian world would unanimously conclude that mormonism is exactly that, the result of the "craftiness of Joseph Smith"! Precisely my point and the same conclusion and or position (although he now wants to deny it) as that of Sherman. Since there are but TWO...
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    1 Nephi 14 -- Any LDS Official Explanation?

    For Sherman (or any other lds poster): If one rejects the Book of Mormon (assuming one has ample opportunity to hear, read, know and/or understand its claims by/from qualified lds priesthood holders), has one hardened their heart and become a member of the "church of the devil"? A: Yes B: No
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    1 Nephi 14 -- Any LDS Official Explanation?

    What Sherman has said, and now appears ready to deny, was that if one rejects the restored gospel of Jesus Christ, one has "hardened his heart and has joined the church of the devil". The restored gospel, according to mormons, is the Book of Mormon. Accordingly, if one rejects the BOM, one...
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    1 Nephi 14 -- Any LDS Official Explanation?

    Sherman, I am beginning to think either: you did not read (or understand) what YOU wrote or, you are now trying to implement the famous “mormon backpeddlin”! You specifically said if one rejects the “restored gospel” you have… joined the church of the devil”! (let me quote you...