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Recent content by LeafByNiggle

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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    I did not suggest that something means the opposite of what it says.
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    "If he believed"? That would evidence? Evidence is something that can be objectively determined. But whether someone has real belief or fake belief is not something that can be determined objectively. Remember the disciples who left Jesus in John 6 in the Bread of Life discourse? They...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    That does not mean what you think it means. Cite the verses and we can see. that also does not mean what you think it means. In particular, it is consistent with free will. The question reduces to how God selects those "given" to Jesus—whether it is through specific divine and unconditional...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    ..nor does any mere human, saved or not, have understanding of God. Anyone who claims they understand God is just boasting. That is a postulate, not a theorem. It cannot be proven. It can only be assumed, as can the contrary position, that everyone has the ability to seek Him, but only some...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    It was to a condition. The fact that the question was asked by a sinner who truly desired salvation doesn't change that. And this verse said nothing about what Jesus has accomplished for us or who He is. That appears elsewhere, but this verse goes first and foremost to what a person must DO...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    Then why did the Apostle say there was something to do? Not only that, he specified what that something is. That is a postulate, not a theorem. That is, you can assume we only do the right thing after God chooses us for justification. But there is no way to prove from the words of Jesus and...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    There is no way that "What must I do to be saved?" can be taken as the same thing "Am I saved?" The first question links salvation with DOING something. The second one doesn't. So the question was not merely a concern about his present condition. It was a question about agency in becoming...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    The question itself implies responsibility. "What must I do to be saved?" If unconditional election were true, the only correct answer would have been "There is nothing you can do to be saved." Instead the answer given actually specifies a condition.
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    Texas Passed A Law To Clarify When Women Should Receive Life-Saving Care. She Almost Died Anyway.

    or.....it was just an honest mistake in interpretation. It could be that too.
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    Texas Passed A Law To Clarify When Women Should Receive Life-Saving Care. She Almost Died Anyway.

    I don't think Servus' comment was meant as a justification for the treatment of thar woman. It was just an observation of a related fact.
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    Rep. Jayapal: Dems Talking About Expanding Supreme Court

    I am sympathetic to the Democratic agenda, but I heard David Brooks on TV yesterday comment on this issue and I have to agree with him. He said that the Democrats are going about this all wrong. The Supreme Court decisions on immigration that prompted this exchange were simply interpreting...
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    Former Olympian among those charged with vandalizing Reflecting Pool

    According to Merriam-Webster, a conspiracy is a secret agreement between two or more people to commit an unlawful, harmful, or treacherous act. It involves collective planning and deliberate deception aimed at subverting authority, defrauding others, or achieving a malicious objective while...
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    Former Olympian among those charged with vandalizing Reflecting Pool

    As I understand it, Servus' argument was that Park Service police would not risk their careers to follow an order from higher up. Therefore they would act independently out of fear of the consequences of acting in concert with Trump's wishes. But as I pointed out, there is no risk to doing...
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    Former Olympian among those charged with vandalizing Reflecting Pool

    If that were true it would be easy to verify by chemical analysis of the water.
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    Former Olympian among those charged with vandalizing Reflecting Pool

    That should be easy to verify by chemical analysis of the water. But you should know that polyurea coatings are highly resistant to most caustic chemicals, strong acids, and petroleum products. It takes something like concentrated nitric acid, high concentrations of sulfuric acid, and certain...