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    My first quiz, about Orthodoxy, please take and leave me feedback

    Bah. I really did double check it. I really did. I'll make it again.
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    The MT produced by the "Council of Jamnia"?

    The MT didn't really come into existence till at least 2 A.D. The earliest actual text we have of it dates to the 10th c. The DSS makes it clear that before that time there were differing ideas within Judaism about what the correct text was. It is clear from the way Paul interprets certain...
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    My first quiz, about Orthodoxy, please take and leave me feedback

    My second quiz has been remade and corrected.
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    the Church Fathers and Real presence

    Also enlightening is this article: http://www.christendom-awake.org/pages/dlongene/breadol.html " So during the time of Jesus the whole Jewish sacrificial system was in place. Priests were offering sacrifices for the forgiveness of sins and the climax of this sacrificial system was that...
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    My first quiz, about Orthodoxy, please take and leave me feedback

    Did the wrong answer get put down for that one? I'm confused.
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    the Church Fathers and Real presence

    Christ was crucified once. The sacrifice was for all throughout all time. Obviously, something a-temporal was going on to make that happen. Hebrews clearly states that an earthly altar is imperfect. Which is why Hebrews states that Christ was sacrificed on the heavenly altar, in the sanctuary...
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    the Church Fathers and Real presence

    This site has many fine articles about the relationship between early Christian worship and beleifs and the jewish temple. http://jbburnett.com/theology/theol-ltg-ot-roots.html
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    the Church Fathers and Real presence

    Well, Christ certaintly isn't a dead sacrifice. Hebrews is a nice book to read, especially chapter 7: 17For it is attested of Him, "(U)YOU ARE A PRIEST FOREVER ACCORDING TO THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK." 18For, on the one hand, there is a setting aside of a former commandment (V)because of...
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    My first quiz, about Orthodoxy, please take and leave me feedback

    Because the last one was so much fun, I made another! http://www.christianforums.com/quiz.php?quizid=3128
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    the Church Fathers and Real presence

    Just would like to point out that the early Christians, of whom Greek was their native tongue, read the NT and the Church Fathers you quoted in their original Greek (or Latin) and never made of it what you did. I don't know if that tells you something. But it sure does to me.
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    the Church Fathers and Real presence

    Symbol: sumbolon , to, A. tally, i.e. each of two halves or corresponding pieces of an astragalos or other object, which two xenoi, or any two contracting parties, broke between them, each party keeping one piece, in order to have proof of the identity of the presenter of the other...
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    the Church Fathers and Real presence

    Remembrance: Luke 22:19 kai labôn arton eucharistêsas eklasen kai edôken autois legôn Touto estin to sôma mou [[to huper humôn didomenon: touto poieite eis tên emên anamnêsin. Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon anamnê-sis , eôs, hê, ( [anamimnêiskô] ) A...
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    the Church Fathers and Real presence

    I did look them up and read them in context. Which is what told me that they do not say what you want them to.
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    the Church Fathers and Real presence

    "precious blood of divine spiritual grapes" Please look up what the words "remembrance" and "symbol" meant in the ancient world.
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    How do Orthodox churches deal with theological discrepancies?

    Sorry to show up late to the discussion, but there is within Orthodoxy things called theologomena. Theologomena are theological beliefs which are not deemed heretical by the church at large, but are not widely accepted as dogma either. Certain things, such as sophiology and apocatasesis fall...
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