Recent content by John Hyperspace

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    My Dream Message

    I say in all good-nature: that statement is highly debatable.
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    Is the New Age movement Satanic?

    To my mind, the only thing more "satanic" than unjust judgment, and false accusations; is to misapply scripture to support unjust judgment and false accusation. Judgment is not to be taken lightly, and passed without consideration with the utmost gravity. A lot of people equate "satanic" with...
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    Flat Earth V.S Round Earth? (Also helio/geocentrism)

    The only significance of the physical is as a metaphor. If I am communicating abstract ideas to you, and I hold up a physical object and say "It's like this physical object": once you grasp the idea conveyed by the physical, the physical is now irrelevant: I have communicated to you that...
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    Flat Earth V.S Round Earth? (Also helio/geocentrism)

    In the beginning. We look at that and you may say "Literally" and I say "Okay, but I perceive that literality as irrelevant" In the beginning: Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. So, in the beginning I see Christ. Let there be light...
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    Flat Earth V.S Round Earth? (Also helio/geocentrism)

    What I mean is I believe the literal is irrelevant but to point to the spiritual. Seeing Jesus literally give sight to the literal blind is a sign not intended to cause the seer to say "He can heal the carnal eyes" but to the spiritual seer "His teachings open the spiritual eyes; this carnal...
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    Flat Earth V.S Round Earth? (Also helio/geocentrism)

    I always feel the need to say: bear in mind, I'm not saying "None of the bible ever literally happened" but I'm saying, the literal is merely intended as a form of literal metaphor; a "picture book" of earthly shadows conveying spiritual images. Also, that there is no possible way to know the...
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    Flat Earth V.S Round Earth? (Also helio/geocentrism)

    For me, literalisms ended long ago. That's one way to translate the verse. It's not difficult to imagine a star-shaped earth riding on the back of a unicorn. Ability to "envision" doesn't equate to truth.
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    Flat Earth V.S Round Earth? (Also helio/geocentrism)

    I believe Genesis is conveying a spiritual creation; whether or not it is literal is irrelevant. The carnal/earthly things are only of interest to the carnal/earthly-minded. To the spiritually-minded, they are irrelevant. Your son had the advantage of knowing for fact the lights were...
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    Flat Earth V.S Round Earth? (Also helio/geocentrism)

    I agree with that verse you cite.
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    Flat Earth V.S Round Earth? (Also helio/geocentrism)

    The same way I'm concerned with the ability of Jesus to spiritually heal the spiritually blind spiritual eyes, and not concerned with the ability to carnally heal carnal blindness. I am not concerned with carnal signs; I am concerned with the spiritual thing which the carnal points. Much like I...
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    Flat Earth V.S Round Earth? (Also helio/geocentrism)

    As I said earlier, helio/geocentricism is an entirely different proposition. In all honesty, I cannot determine if the earth is moving around something, or, if everything else is moving around the earth, in any meaningful way due to a relativistic frame of reference. Not enough information to...
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    Flat Earth V.S Round Earth? (Also helio/geocentrism)

    Well, you're pretty much saying, "Let's not talk about the big thing that refutes the notion; let's talk about the little things that don't refute it." Like I said before, I have no proverbial dog in this proverbial fight. I don't know for certain what shape the earth is, and to me it doesn't...
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    Flat Earth V.S Round Earth? (Also helio/geocentrism)

    Nope. But I've seen the sunset, and know for fact I can't bring the sun back into view even with a telescope.
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    Flat Earth V.S Round Earth? (Also helio/geocentrism)

    I've eyewitnessed the sun disappear below the horizon. That's all I need to seriously doubt "flat earth" propositions. I can see craters on the moon, and the rings of Saturn with a telescope, and you're wanting me to believe I can't view the sun at midnight? The only reasonable conclusion is...