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    Non-Trinitarian What basis do people support for Non Trinitarianism?

    I've heard of this. I'm not convinced, but I also don't really care about such speculation. I'm fine just believing what the bible explicitly says.
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    Non-Trinitarian What basis do people support for Non Trinitarianism?

    It seems to me that John is speaking figuratively. I do not think Jesus was literally in God's bosom. I think what John is trying to convey is that Jesus had a close and special relationship with God, which is why he was able to convey the true nature of God to his followers. Also, Jesus could...
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    Non-Trinitarian What are the attributes of God?

    So then if Jesus is a man, he is not God?
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    Non-Trinitarian What basis do people support for Non Trinitarianism?

    Please show me where the doctrine of the Trinity, as articulated by the post Nicene church creeds, is explicitly taught in the Bible. Jesus explains why we should honor him... because the Father sent him. If a king sends an emissary and you dishonor the emissary, then you dishonor the king who...
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    Non-Trinitarian What basis do people support for Non Trinitarianism?

    What exactly does a mere man or only a man even mean? I quoted Hebrews because it demonstrates that Jesus was a man like us. Perhaps after his resurrection he became something else, but we shall also be like him when we are resurrected, hence we shall be his brothers and sisters. In answer to...
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    Non-Trinitarian What basis do people support for Non Trinitarianism?

    If you read John 1:18 closely, you can see that it does not actually say that the Son has seen the Father either. It merely says that the Son has made him (the Father/God) known. It sounds like you are contradicting yourself here. Either we can see God physically or we can't. If we can see God...
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    Non-Trinitarian What basis do people support for Non Trinitarianism?

    No one has physically seen God (presumed to be true) People saw Jesus (true) Therefore: Jesus is not God No one has physically seen God (presumed to be true) People physically saw God in the Old Testament (presumed to be true) Therefore: One of the premises must be false. I think we both agree...
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    Non-Trinitarian What basis do people support for Non Trinitarianism?

    First of all, thank you for discussing with me. Most who simply read the bible will not reach the conclusion that Jesus is God/Yahweh, because there already is a God portrayed in the bible. God is the individual who Jesus calls his Father and the individual Paul and the other disciples call...
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    Non-Trinitarian What basis do people support for Non Trinitarianism?

    Now you need to clarify what it is you mean when you speak of Jesus' diety. Are you saying that all Christians for 2000 years believed Jesus is Yahweh? The only way to make such a claim is to define a Christian as someone who believes Jesus is Yahweh (and by doing so you include...
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    Non-Trinitarian What basis do people support for Non Trinitarianism?

    I assume this question is addressed to me. I believe Jesus to be the Messiah, the anointed one of God, the king from the line of David who God promised would have an everlasting reign, the prophet who God promised to raise up from among the Israelites who would speaks God's words so that we...
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    Non-Trinitarian What are the attributes of God?

    God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it? Numbers 23:19. Something like this? I supposed you would respond that is only applies to God the Father and not God the Son. Or...
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    Non-Trinitarian What basis do people support for Non Trinitarianism?

    I think the simplest basis would be that it is not an explicit teaching of the bible. Now someone can point to specific verses that perhaps suggest that Jesus is God/Divine and less than a handful of verses that suggest that the Holy Spirit is a separate individual that is also God/Divine...
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    Why do dolphins have olfactory receptor (OR) genes?

    Could you further elaborate on this point? Is your understanding that the degeneration of a complex system to the point where it loses functionality represents an example of evolution? In the OP's example, we have a functional olfactory system that degrades over time and becomes...
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    Do we have agency regarding when we die?

    Many would argue that a rational person who is not mentally ill, would not decide that their life is not worth continuing. As such, society makes efforts to prevent people from ending their own life aside from cases where the person is terminally ill or is enduring significant suffering. Do you...
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    Do we have agency regarding when we die?

    I would go further and ask whether God decides when someone dies of is it random. Either way I don't see why God would be upset at someone who chooses to die sooner rather than later.