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Recent content by Grega

  1. Grega

    Lying is always bad???

    No, not a decree. And maybe not really a "law of the universe" at least not in all cases. I am sleepy is a subjective truth - only I can know whether that is true or not. CS Lewis wrote the Tales of Narnia is an objective truth, it is true whether I (or anyone) knows it or not. But the later...
  2. Grega

    Lying is always bad???

    Hmm...correct me if I'm wrong then, given you are an objectivist does this mean that lying is always wrong by some form of decree and is in requirement of no further explanation other than this? Or do you argue that it is a fundamental law of the universe (whereby I'd expect some form of...
  3. Grega

    Lying is always bad???

    If you maintain such lies up to a point where they gain the maturity to see that you are lying then yes, perhaps you'd have a point. But I am talking about a single lie here that may perhaps be performed a small number of times and that motivates this young child who's current proficiency with...
  4. Grega

    Lying is always bad???

    Lying always tends to undermine relationships? Allow me to challenge this...so when say, a four year old child shows you the mess he/she has made with some crayons and asks you what you think of it; telling that child it is really good would undermine that relationship??? Is it better in this...
  5. Grega

    Lying is always bad???

    But is it always an 'imperfect' means to an end? why is it that in all cases, the greatest good outcome is that (somehow) the person who receives information should receive the correct information? (regardless of what they would do with it) I can only imagine that answering these questions...
  6. Grega

    Lying is always bad???

    Actually it is you who jumped in here with little more than a statement you didn't want to waste your time on me and a few pointless snipeshots, you haven't actually been respectful, and your lack of meaningful input demonstrates it is infact yourself being the troll so please...stop playing...
  7. Grega

    Lying is always bad???

    Your first part of this response is nonsense and you seem to have gotten yourself all riled up over something. I can't be bothered responding to you in any further detail on this. For your second Bible says God can't lie ==> God can't lie ==> Bible is truthful when it says God can't lie ==> God...
  8. Grega

    Lying is always bad???

    Firstly, I cited nothing from scripture. Secondly I noted in my OP that I am aware your Bible says God cannot lie and I have invoked nothing more than that. If lying is bad because God says it is bad then you have to convince me how and why God couldn't have lied when he inspired that. This...
  9. Grega

    Lying is always bad???

    I interpret this as: you need the Bible to prove the Bible. This of course works for you but thats as far as it goes. Thankyou for your valuable input :)
  10. Grega

    Lying is always bad???

    I think we must distinguish between what might be justified with what we mean by wrong. Saying lying is always wrong does not mean it is never justified. We similarly justify killing in some cases but the act of taking life is still and always wrong. I still fail to see how lying fits the...
  11. Grega

    Lying is always bad???

    For your first paragraph, why is lying always wrong? (by 'wrong' I don't mean an assertion that X is true when it is infact false! I mean the other type of wrong, ie: unacceptable, deplorable, morally low, etc..) Your last paragraph is problematic. I don't presume to see truth as good (as you...
  12. Grega

    Lying is always bad???

    I've been away for a while but... Keeping your posts objective and scripture free, why is it that in all cases lying is intrinsically bad such that your God, whom you define to be Good cannot lie? I ask you refrain from throwing scripture at this thread because even if you tell me the Bible...
  13. Grega

    Precision

    I'm sure many of you folks don't buy such nonsense as tea-leaves reading, astrology, etc... on the basis of nothing more than accounts given by practitioners of such. You would want to know how such things can be reliable sources of information, or you would investigate how they couldn't be...
  14. Grega

    Fiery Hell

    What part of me will remain in Hell to experience/perceive/be aware of this spiritual poverty given that this fire apparantly destroys my body and soul?
  15. Grega

    Fiery Hell

    Please elaborate on this point so I can accurately respond to the rest of this post.