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Recent content by DisingenuousChristian

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    Ousting Myself

    Yes, so I want to confess that I am a troll. Thanks.
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    A Concession & A Question

    So, there is a point at which explanations "bottom out" - correct? In other words, the "turtles upon turtles" cease at some point? You mentioned that I was a 'handwaiver' and earlier that I was 'projecting.' Furthermore, much here reflects a callous lack of charity inveighed towards me. As...
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    A Concession & A Question

    Do you accept an infinite regress of explanations then? I'll simply file these away as merely your opinions and ad hominem assaults. ::ignore::
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    A Concession & A Question

    Exactly. It is. Magically as it were. I'm not looking for a deeper truth, only an explanation of the fact of sentience. But... I do. Consciousness is an attribute of the soul. Hence, the presence of a soul in a body capable of sentience, instantiates sentience. You have to somehow...
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    An Epiphany

    THANK YOU.
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    A Concession & A Question

    Look at the phenomenology of 'why' water puts out fire though. There is simply a causal relation that exists. That's all. Yes, you can look at things on a chemical basis, but once you get down to it what rears its head is not some ultimate explanatory mechanism which lets you discover this...
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    A Concession & A Question

    I don't need to because I know when an explanation in its very principle is impossible. Why is water wet? Which means absolutely nothing in regards to consciousness... Fair enough. You are right that the sense of personal identity is a relevant one for consciousness. After all, who is...
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    A Concession & A Question

    No, but when it comes to justifying an explanation for consciousness your pushing back any idea as to what "causes" might exist or of their nature shows your reticence in engaging with the possibility of the hows and whys of their relevance to the consciousness project; that is, ascertaining in...
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    An Epiphany

    I have just had an epiphany about science and magic. Everything is magic. And science is that little, tiny bit of Will present in human beings that carves out of this magic "reasons."
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    A Concession & A Question

    I would really like to see evidence of that. Only, it's impossible. What separates living systems from non-living systems. Are you a vitalist? Gibberish. What is "single entity complexity" and how would it be any different from "multiple entity complexity" so as to produce consciousness...
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    A Concession & A Question

    Put simply, no explanation yet has been offered, and none may be forthcoming given what we know about the brain. On the other hand, I do have a viable explanation; the soul. I don't buy that. To say that there is an "illusion" of consciousness is nothing more than a cop-out. Even an illusion...
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    A Concession & A Question

    That to me seems like a cop out. We know a lot about the brain already. Enough anyway for you to say we needn't posit a "magical entity" like consciousness. But now you are pleading ignorance of said causes, which assumes therefore that you, currently, lack the explanatory tools to justify the...
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    A Concession & A Question

    Are you saying that the effect is no different than the cause?
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    A Concession & A Question

    That sentence makes no sense whatsoever. That or you're playing with me, in which case I wouldn't be much surprised. Do you think space is fundamentally conscious at some "gradient" level? Why should "brain" be the only system to instantiate consciousness? Why not "CPU" as well, or...
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    A Concession & A Question

    No, I think the "thing" which is sentience (ability to sense, or the facthood of having that sense, let's say) doesn't have to be exclusive to organisms. (Or, if its what you mean that consciousness is separate from being necessarily instantiated in a given entity - I don't mean that either. -...