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Recent content by dcarrera

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    Does Good exist without God? Moral Theory: Atheism vs Christianity

    How do you figure? He argued in favour of promoting well-being. Genocide is not well-being. But you know who is a big fan of genocide? Yahweh. You have stories like the flood, or him hardening the Pharaoh's heart to force him to say "no" so Yahweh would have an "excuse" to commit genocide and...
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    Does Good exist without God? Moral Theory: Atheism vs Christianity

    Well said. We can add "shifting the burden of proof" to the long list of Dr Bruce's fallacies and dishonest tactics. But anyway... as far as I can tell most atheists are agnostic atheists. Famous atheists like Richard Dawkins are agnostic atheists. I remember once Richard Dawkins suggested a...
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    Does Good exist without God? Moral Theory: Atheism vs Christianity

    You cannot make that assertion, since I have not given them to you in any level of detail. Your "perspective" amounts to a strawman and a red herring. I am not the one who all of a sudden said "if you left Christianity you were probably never a believer and you probably left because you got...
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    Does Good exist without God? Moral Theory: Atheism vs Christianity

    You don't see how judgmental you are? You don't know me, but you have concocted an idea in your head that if I left the faith it must have been because I got angry with god over unanswered prayers. You are wrong, btw. If you want something closer to the answer, look at a mirror. I am not saying...
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    Scientific Atheism is dishonest

    I think you underestimate how much political power Christians wield in America. One of the two major political parties is almost entirely subservient to the Christian right, and even the members of the other party have to profess belief in the Christian deity if they want to have any hope of...
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    Scientific Atheism is dishonest

    Alternatively, maybe we live in a society where Christians wield incredibly political power and major political decisions like whether we go to war or whether we give civil rights to certain groups of people are heavily influenced by Christian doctrine. This forces those in the minority to...
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    Does Good exist without God? Moral Theory: Atheism vs Christianity

    That's not how I meant it. In my reply to you I said "what about it?". Depending on the tone of voice, that can sound like I was dismissing your question. That's what I meant. You have been respectful toward me and I want to be respectful toward you as well. Certainly, I think that millions of...
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    Does Good exist without God? Moral Theory: Atheism vs Christianity

    What about it? I don't mean to be dismissive, I honestly don't know what you are asking me. You already know that I'm an atheist, so I don't believe in Jesus. Let me know if I misunderstood you, but I guess you are presenting Jesus as an example of good morals? If that is the case, I have a...
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    Does Good exist without God? Moral Theory: Atheism vs Christianity

    ???? I cannot imagine any reason why that would be the case, and I have reason to think that that is not the case. For example, here is an old video that I like where the speaker lay sout a number of objective moral rules quite independent of deity. Furthermore, I argued earlier that...
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    Does Good exist without God? Moral Theory: Atheism vs Christianity

    Exactly. So I don't believe in sin. Sure. I don't object to anything you said; it was clear you were just describing your faith. That said, I think you took a bit of a tangent. We were talking about the source of morals, and your post seems to be about the problem of suffering. To recap: I...
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    Free Will and Evil

    Standard response: Earth quakes, tsunamis, malaria, polio, etc.
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    Atheists Philosphers Mock Defining Atheism as a "Lack of Belief in God."

    Let's assume that you are right about that. Why should I care? They don't speak for me. I would be happy to tell you my views, but I don't feel the need to defend a random blog post from someone I've never heard of. In case you are wondering, I don't believe in Yahweh in roughly the same sense...
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    Does Good exist without God? Moral Theory: Atheism vs Christianity

    Just to confirm, you are telling me that angels and humans cause malaria and tsunamis?
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    Does Good exist without God? Moral Theory: Atheism vs Christianity

    [Citation needed] Please define sin. My dictionary says "transgression of divine law". If you agree with that definition, then I do not believe in sin because I do not believe in the divine. If you are using a different definition, please tell me what it is and please show that it is...
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    Does Good exist without God? Moral Theory: Atheism vs Christianity

    Wait... are you saying that evil angels are the reason for malaria?