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Recent content by athorist

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    Teaching the difference?

    Seems like we are in total agreement here then. What really bugs me about ID though, is that there seems to be a campaign going on that deliberatly tries to spread disinformation. I know that I may be unfair here, but I can't help blaming the moderate (majority) of christians for shielding that...
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    The burden of proof

    uh. please try getting the quoting right. it's a pain to read your post.
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    Teaching the difference?

    I agree with the above. I would claim that this also applies to OEC, though. That's what I would have thought, too. Mind you, evolutionary biology does not make any statement whether gods exist or not. Claiming to precisely know how the christian god created the cosmos seems actually quite...
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    The principle of least action

    I send you a PM where I point you to two papers that do the derivation in detail. One might argue if it isn't actually the proponents of ID and bible-prophecies that are falling for this fallacy. From what I've seen they start with the a-priori belief that the bible is infallible and selectivly...
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    Teaching the difference?

    I suggest typing "Evolution" into google. The wikipedia article provides a quite extensive definition.
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    Teaching the difference?

    These ones, which I now provide for you the third time: Cavefish as a Model System in Evolutionary Developmental Biology by William R. Jeffrey, Developmental Biology, 231:, 1-12 (1 Mar 2001) - contains experimental tests of hypotheses about eye evolution Crystal Structure Of An Ancient...
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    Teaching the difference?

    Anymore evidence? :doh:You've shown none so far. As for Darwin being christian: (Source: wikipedia) It is true that he lost his faith later on in his life. But when he wrote his fameous book "The Origin of Species" he clearly was a christian.
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    Teaching the difference?

    Does it matter if they have evidence? Many of them are christians, btw. You just succesfully demonstrated that you certainly do not deserve to be called a scientist. Scientists teach according to worldview and not evidence? I'm afraid, no. It's not what scientists do. It's what you do, maybe...
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    Teaching the difference?

    The case for the Bible's accuracy rest entirely on it's fans, too. You still fail to name any research done on this subject.
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    Teaching the difference?

    That's plain wrong. I recommend reading the article on the history of science on wikipedia. They were neither christians nor proponents of Darwinian theory. Aristotle hardly was a christian, right? I fail to see how this is relevant to the question at hand anyway. But maybe you could elucidate...
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    Teaching the difference?

    Oh come on. There is no debate at all about this within the scientific community. It precisely the aim of creationist propaganda to pretend being science, whilst it infact is not even closely. Can you cite any research favouring creationism that has been peer-reviewed? At which universities are...
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    The burden of proof

    Sarapin, thank you for that reply. You are actually the first poster in this thread who seems to get what I am trying to discuss - that's a relief. I absolutely agree with the above. Indeed proving the non-existance of supernatural entities is impossible in the same way as proving the...
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    The burden of proof

    Oh, and btw, you're clearly in the wrong thread. This one is about "the burdon of proof" - it's about epistemology. "Teaching the difference" would be the apropriate thread, don't you think? Guess it was convenient to dodge the research that I cited by posting in the wrong thread...
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    The burden of proof

    We're confusing science with laws of nature here, are we? Equivocation fallacy! How is that relevant? It proves nothing except that your reasoning is flawed. Err... and this does not prove your point. It's a huge non-sequitur. How about commenting on some real science? You come off a bit...
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    The burden of proof

    Where did you show evidence, please?