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Recent content by ATAT

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    Jesus' message: Not what you would expect.

    My point is that Jesus said: A. Forgiving others is the key to gaining forgiveness from God. That's not the same thing as B. 'You gotta believe Jesus is God who died on the cross as your final sin atonement sacrifice.' The two are not logically exclusive, but you could have someone...
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    Jesus' message: Not what you would expect.

     I'm arguing what Jesus taught:   He taught that if you forgive others, you will be forgiven.  Period.   If you don't forgive others, you won't be.   Someone asked where repentance comes in... well, if you forgive / love others, you have humbled...
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    Christians who wish to worship with (as) Jews

    I saw this lady the other day with a star of David around her neck. I asked her if she was Jewish. She said she was, yes. Then she said she was adopted. I thought, how nice. Then she said she was actually adopted into the 'real' chosen people, the Catholics, through her 'faith in...
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    Jewish Converts

    I'm in the middle of a couple of debates, back soon. Anyone want to come watch, let me know at ATAT8181@yahoo.com I checked out your web site, and have some thoughts about it. I read these wonderful posts, I want to reply to them. Give me a week ...
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    Jewish Converts

    I agree with that. But my Christian teachers told me that hell would be more along the lines of Dante's inferno. Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. ... But to the Christian who rejects the notion of physical torment, I salute you and have...
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    Jewish Converts

    You mean what are my best reasons, or what at the time was on my mind? If the later, I had a friend who was Jewish. I studied with him, and admired him for the fact he put in more study time and less t.v. time that I did. He was disciplined, more than I. He spent more time on his...
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    Jewish Converts

    Just wanted to mention that I was a Christian first, then flirted with Messianic Judaism, and then converted to Orthodox Judaism 18 years ago. With respect...
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    Christians who wish to worship with (as) Jews

    You're right! Man. Oh, I can make up for it: An old creaking, wooden sign rocks slowly back and forth in the wind.   A screen porch door slams again and again.
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    Christians who wish to worship with (as) Jews

        Crickets chirp.   Wind blows.   A lone wolf howls in the distance.    
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    Jesus' message: Not what you would expect.

    Total Thread Recap: My bible, you know, the one with the four Gospels, has this fellow, 'Jesus' preaching that to be forgiven we have to forgive others. Very nice. Oh. by the way. It destroys modern Christianity. Right? Right? Hello? Anybody think that's wrong??
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    Was There A World Before Adam?

    NIV Isaiah 14:12 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! KJV Revelation 22  16   I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches...
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    Jesus' message: Not what you would expect.

    I'm back with more time if anyone has a point to make on this topic.
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    Jesus' message: Not what you would expect.

    I am currently occupied with a project. Anyone who wants a personal reply: at8080@yahoo.com
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    Can someone be saved and deny Jesus being God

    I am currently occupied with a project. Anyone who wants a personal reply: at8080@yahoo.com
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    Jesus' message: Not what you would expect.

    LouisBooth John 8:58 Is Jesus speaking as a prophet of God after defining his role as such. Ref: 29 The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him." 54 Jesus replied, "If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim...