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Recent content by AC83

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    Mutation Rates Argument

    Have you considered that they might secretly be demons? Spirits Accessing the Material World - Vox Popoli
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    Mutation Rates Argument

    The recent posts on prompting generative AIs about this argument actually manage to get even goofier. An AI Disproof of Evolution - Vox Popoli
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    Mutation Rates Argument

    I'm not saying that any of this was a good way to interpret the data. I just still don't see where the idea of a one-at-a-time assumption is coming from.
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    Mutation Rates Argument

    How does that imply that only one can become fixed at a time?
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    He just multiplies an estimate of the years per generation by an estimate of the generations per fixed mutation. As I explained, the problem is that his rational for the number he uses for the later estimate doesn't actually make any sense.
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    It doesn't really matter for the argument he is trying to make. It is just the average rate that he is concerned with.
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    Mutation Rates Argument

    Well, I guess that I didn't make it as clear as I thought.
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    Mutation Rates Argument

    The reason why the justification given for the human "fixation" rate figure used doesn't make sense to me can probably be explained a little more clearly than in my first post. Consider the two equations: X1 = A1*B1 X2 = A2*B2 Let the A variables represent "generations per fixed mutation"...
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    Where did you get that from? Did you mean economist? He likes to compare evolution disfavorably to economics, but he actually isn't an economist either and just has a bachelor's degree in economics. I know it still seems like it must be way off, but it was supposed to only be for mutations...
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    Mutation Rates Argument

    Another thing I should add is that the argument appears to be about fixed mutations and not just any mutations the occur in the species. I'm not sure if terms are being used in the standard way, but I don't think this really addresses what he is trying to get at.
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    Mutation Rates Argument

    This is apparently a figure from the Nature article for the number of E-Coli generations per fixed mutation, but I can't verify that. What I don't get is how he tries to justify using this number for humans. He makes it sound like this is being very generous by using "fastest possible fixation...
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    Mutation Rates Argument

    I'm fully aware that this is just a debate and not something reviewed and published in a reputable journal. I also know how silly it is to think that this would go unnoticed by professional biologists for so long if there actually were a problem this simple and this glaring. I'm just trying to...
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    Mutation Rates Argument

    Vox Day claims to have mathematically shown that "evolution is impossible". His argument appears to be that simple math shows that there isn't enough time to account for the genetic differences between humans and chimpanzees. The argument looks badly flawed to me, but I am not a biologist and...