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Trump signs executive order classifying fentanyl as a ‘weapon of mass destruction’

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Yes, Trump made that known about his 'illicit fentanyl' termination strategy. Yet you chose to falsely or maliciously include hospitals in that net --while you knew hospitals have legal permission to administer fentanyl.

Did @Hans Blaster or @BPPLEE or @DaisyDay send you to make that flagrant claim against the US President??
I have never "sent" anyone here to do anything. Is this a confession of your own actions/motivations? Is this your way of telling everyone that you act in league with others?

@Nithavela, as far as I can tell, is completely independent and more than capable of posting their own opinions, very many of which enlighten me.
You didn't answer the question. Although you did ensure to make yet another false claim against Trump's intentions. And, now I feel so sad for you or any other "Americans" who give the appearance of protecting narco terrorists from Trump’s exec order.
Yeah, sure. Fentanyl does not come from Venezuela (unlike cocaine, oil and certain rare earth minerals). Trump has now announced that he wants to fight against Venezuela to get "our oil" back. Even he has stopped pretending.

“We’re not going to be letting anybody going through who shouldn’t be going through,” Trump told reporters. “You remember they took all of our energy rights. They took all of our oil not that long ago. And we want it back. They took it — they illegally took it.”​

 
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It's like the old saying goes. If Trump lead the fight against cancer, certain people would object to it. There would be pro-cancer protests.
LOL
View a list of my antagonists here on CF, to learn who'd be at those pro-Cancer protests.
 
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Is this a confession of your own actions/motivations?
HINT: if Trump soon issues an Exec Order declaring war, on Cancer, will you run to hurry and participate in the closest pro-Cancer rally???

...cocaine...
Is fentanyl a Schedule 1 narcotic? Is cocaine a Schedule 1 narcotic???
 
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HINT: if Trump soon issues an Exec Order declaring war, on Cancer, will you run to hurry and participate in the closest pro-Cancer rally???


Is fentanyl a Schedule 1 narcotic? Is cocaine a Schedule 1 narcotic???
Neither are schedule 1.
 
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I'm going by overall comments and attitudes expressed across the board. There seems to be great resistance to an aggressive proactive stance against fentanyl and other illegal drugs coming into the US.
We are just examining this one tactic. And yet you make a judgement about peoples support for all the other available tactics. You are not making sense with this.
 
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We are just examining this one tactic. And yet you make a judgement about peoples support for all the other available tactics. You are not making sense with this.
The protest against this issue mirrors the protests against any kind of war against drugs and virtually anything Trump comes up with, does or says.
 
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The protest against this issue mirrors the protests against any kind of war against drugs and virtually anything Trump comes up with, does or says.
But there arent threads or even discussion about most of the tactics used against the fentanyl problem. A lot of it seems to be entirely non-controversial and so doesnt generate the discussion-excitement we all thrive on here.
 
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IOW, you're here to throw spitballs and falsely imply other members posting here "want no action whatsoever to take place" and want to enable welfare to drug addicts.

Let me know when you are interested in having a discussion based on what I and others write here....not what you imagine.
The stance of no action against narcotics, narcotics becoming legalized, and the continuation of welfare to people who should be able to work, is well documented. Are there CF members who lean towards that ideology? It sure seems so.
 
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Neither are schedule 1.
Exactly. And does either drug carry A VERY HIGH RISK OF ABUSE that lead to deaths?

If not, then Trump needs to cut it out and leave those narco terrorists alone to NOT kill more Americans with their Schedule 2 product
 
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But there arent threads or even discussion about most of the tactics used against the fentanyl problem. A lot of it seems to be entirely non-controversial and so doesnt generate the discussion-excitement we all thrive on here.
I don't know what you're talking about. There's oodles of lively threads protesting just about everything Trump says or does, against pretty much all of his policies, executive orders and actions. Protesting Fentanyl being deaired a WMD is just one small piece of it the whole. All of it has the underlying dictator/autocrat/king out to destroy democracy and bring about a horrific dystopia conspiracy theory. And it's certainly not relegated to CF, as it's all throughout news and social media outlets across the board.
 
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IOW, you're here to throw spitballs and falsely imply other members posting here "want no action whatsoever to take place" and want to enable welfare to drug addicts.

Let me know when you are interested in having a discussion based on what I and others write here....not what you imagine.
You give the appearance that you are an EXPERT in those same artforms or writing forms.
 
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HINT: if Trump soon issues an Exec Order declaring war, on Cancer, will you run to hurry and participate in the closest pro-Cancer rally???
Trump cancelled cancer research funding. His Big Beautiful Bill is throwing thousands if not millions off their health insurance. Trump is easing regulations on clean air and water which will increase environmentally induced cancer.

If anyone is pro-cancer....


Is fentanyl a Schedule 1 narcotic? Is cocaine a Schedule 1 narcotic???
No. Is cocaine fentanyl?
 
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I don't know what you're talking about. .....
I told you what Im talking about - I quoted your claim that:

"There seems to be great resistance to an aggressive proactive stance against fentanyl and other illegal drugs coming into the US."

Im not talking about every other Trump policy or topic. And neither were you there. Its about dealing with the fentanyl/opioid crisis - as you said right there. But now youre venturing out to every other topic under the sun.
 
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I am expecting the raids of US hospitals that treat patients with fentanyl to commence shortly.
This relates only to illicit fentanyl. The definition is as follows and is part of the order.

Sec. 3. Definitions. (a) “Illicit fentanyl” means fentanyl that is manufactured, distributed, or dispensed, or possessed with intent to manufacture, distribute, or dispense in violation of section 401 and 406 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 841, 846).



AI overview of the laws cited.

Sections 401 and 406 of the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) are key federal laws:
§ 841 (21 U.S.C. 841) prohibits manufacturing, distributing, dispensing, or possessing controlled substances with intent to do so, carrying severe penalties based on drug type and quantity; while § 846 (21 U.S.C. 846) criminalizes attempting or conspiring to commit any offense under the CSA, with penalties matching the completed crime. Together, they form the backbone of federal drug enforcement against trafficking and drug-related conspiracies, as seen in recent actions like fentanyl designations.

21 U.S.C. § 841 (Prohibited Acts A)
  • What it is: Makes it illegal to knowingly manufacture, distribute, dispense, or possess with intent to distribute/dispense any controlled substance (or a counterfeit substance).
  • Penalties: Vary widely, from years to life in prison, depending on the substance's schedule, weight, if death/serious injury resulted, and prior offenses.
  • Examples: Includes actions like illegal prescribing, large-scale drug manufacturing, or possession with intent to sell.

21 U.S.C. § 846 (Attempt and Conspiracy)
  • What it is: Makes it a crime to try to commit a § 841 offense (attempt) or to agree with others to commit one (conspiracy).
  • Penalties: The punishment is the same as if the underlying crime (e.g., the § 841 violation) were completed.
  • Significance: Allows prosecution for plotting or starting a drug crime, even if the actual distribution never fully happens.

In Summary
  • § 841: The core offense of trafficking/dealing drugs.
  • § 846: The offense of plotting to traffic/deal drugs.
  • These sections are frequently cited in federal drug cases, establishing unlawful acts and their consequences under U.S. law, as recently seen with fentanyl.

This order has no effect on the legal manufacture and medical use of fentanyl.
 
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I told you what Im talking about - I quoted your claim that:

"There seems to be great resistance to an aggressive proactive stance against fentanyl and other illegal drugs coming into the US."

Im not talking about every other Trump policy or topic. And neither were you there. Its about dealing with the fentanyl/opioid crisis - as you said right there. But now youre venturing out to every other topic under the sun.
Whether or not you're talking about it, the protest and resistance of most anything anti-narcotic is very prevalent among many. Trump declaring fentanyl a wmd is just a continuation of that. Along with being a continuation of resistance and protest against virtually anything Trump says, or does. I can't explain it any better than that without repeating myself.
 
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Whether or not you're talking about it, the protest and resistance of most anything anti-narcotic is very prevalent among many. Trump declaring fentanyl a wmd is just a continuation of that. Along with being a continuation of resistance and protest against virtually anything Trump says, or does. I can't explain it any better than that without repeating myself.
What youve explained is: you dont have any specific discussion here about all the other fentanyl policy in effect to draw from. So youre just guessing.

ETA: You can clear this all up by simply asking what law enforcement and addiction treatment measures people here support re the fentanyl problem. Instead you just accuse people of being disingenuous. Thats not nice.
 
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What youve explained is: you dont have any specific discussion here about all the other fentanyl policy in effect to draw from. So youre just guessing.
It's gone back to not knowing what you're talking about.
 
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Why are you ignoring what your government is telling you about the sources of fentanyl?

Did you not read those links? They're very clear and very specific about where it comes from. Don't you trust them to tell you the truth?
Be careful. You might get included in the conspiracy theory that several of us who rarely agree with each other are conspiring to irritate a certain person and get his threads shut down
 
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