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[jonojim1337]

Just a couple of inconsistencies

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[prodromos]

Just a couple of inconsistencies

You mean like flights between Sydney and Santiago being shorter than flights between Sydney and Los Angeles? Please explain how that works on your flat earth.

 

[David Lamb]

This is what I call verifiable evidence.

How do you verify it? As I understand it, anybody can post anything (as long as it's not illegal) on platforms like Tik Tok and You Tube.

 

[David Lamb]

They don’t censor as much in these matters.

Exactly, so anybody can post anything on Tik Tok.

 

[Strong in Him]

Yes they are actors that’s why they have stars in Hollywood.

No, they are/were astronauts.
At least one of them, Charles Duke, became a Christian some years after he came back from the moon. He gives talks about his moon landing and says, "this was not the most important thing in my life; meeting Jesus was the most important."

Although she has since changed her mind, @Apple Sky watched a clip of Charles' testimony and said that she completely believed it.

I already told you Buzz Aldrin has admitted it multiple times already.

He has also spoken, and maybe even written, about his time on the moon and the whole moon landing.
I was given a link to a YouTube clip once where Buzz, apparently, said they never went to the moon, (he didn't say that.) The very next clip on YouTube started with the words, "Hi, I'm Buzz Aldrin. I was an astronaut on Apollo 11."

You still haven't provided any evidence that something didn't happen.

 

[David Lamb]

First we need credible evidence that they even went to the moon as these videos just don't cut it.

We have plenty of evidence, including the Christian testimony of man who was converted after the moon trip. Why would he even mention it as part of his testimony, if it hadn't really happened? Elsewhere, you have claimed that he and his family were threatened by NASA, but first, you have no evidence for that, and second, that doesn't explain why he would even mention it as part of his Christian testimony if it was untrue.

 

[Strong in Him]

The correct spelling is astronauts.

I think he knows that - as does @Apple Sky .
They're either doing it to emphasise that they don't believe anything the astronauts did, or they think they're being clever/funny.

I usually just ignore them.

 

[Strong in Him]

First we need credible evidence that they even went to the moon as these videos just don't cut it.

You can say what you like - you know perfectly well that Charles Duke went to the moon.
You watched his testimony, believed every word, were moved by it and it led you to a) write a prayer saying "sorry" to God for doubting them, b) write the words "I reckon Flat Earth is a load of nonsense" and c) publicly state that you would ask for God's help in sticking to your new belief.

Yes, you later changed your mind (repented) about all that - and said "sorry" (again) to God for being sorry and vowing to ask for his help. But the point is; it happened.
I suspect the "goosebumps" you felt when you first watched, and believed, this testimony was actually the Holy Spirit witnessing to you that it was true.
The fact that you are now rubbishing it and saying that Charles is a liar, is not only sad but actually quite serious.
You will have to explain to God why you went back on your vow to ask for his help, and why you think that one of his children who is telling others about Jesus, is lying. But that's for you to deal with.

Why you would put yourself in that position, and possibly even risk God's displeasure, for something that isn't even important, is beyond me - but, like I said; your problem.

 

[Apple Sky]

You will have to explain to God why you went back on your vow to ask for his help, and why you think that one of his children who is telling others about Jesus, is lying. But that's for you to deal with.

I do wonder who will have the most explaining to do, Me or Charley.

 

[Apple Sky]

We have plenty of evidence,

Sure we do, fake everything, pic's, rocket ships & astronauts etc etc etc.

 

[David Lamb]

Sure we do, fake everything, pic's, rocket ships & astronauts etc etc etc.

You have to postulate so many fakes and lies in order to cling on to your beliefs of no moon landings, earth a flat, Antarctica a huge ice wall surrounding the earth, and Zion at the North Pole. All the nations involved in space flight, all the people who have sailed around the world, all the explorers, scientists and others who have visited the poles, all the astronauts who claim to have landed on the moon, and those people include genuine Christians. But why? They are not stopping people from becoming Christians - it is clear from these forums that there are plenty of Christians who do believe the moon landings, who don't believe the earth is a flat disc, and so on, so if it's an attempt to lessen the number of Christians, it's not working. Besides, if your answer to every piece of evidence for the moon landings, or against the earth being flat is to call it "fake" or "lies", what is the point of the pages and pages of discussion?

 

[Strong in Him]

I do wonder who will have the most explaining to do, Me or Charley.

Oh you will; no doubt about it.

Like I said before, GOD saved Charles Duke and gave his his testimony.
Charles tells others about Jesus and how meeting Jesus was far more important than going to the moon.
It's possible that people have become Christians through Charles' testimony - which means he is obeying Jesus' command to preach the Good News.

You publicly said that you believed every word of Charles' testimony.
You said that it was strange believing in a globe earth but that with God's help, you would get there.
You wrote a prayer and said "sorry" to God for doubting the astronauts.
You thanked some of us for helping you to see the truth.
Then one day, you found another video on YouTube and went back on all of that. Presumably you've said "sorry" (again to God for promising to ask for his help and then throwing it back in his face.
You now actively say that a Christian man who tells others about Jesus, is lying - and you get indignant if we don't believe one of your heroes because they are a born again Christian.

 

[Apple Sky]

Oh you will; no doubt about it.

Sooner the better.

 

[Apple Sky]

what is the point of the pages and pages of discussion?

To get the truth out.

 

[David Lamb]

To get the truth out.

But you only seem able to do so by accusing others, including Christians, of being liars. Don't you think that Jesus Christ being the only Saviour on Whom sinners must believe to have eternal life is immensely more important than the shape of the earth, the nature of Antarctica, the moon landings, whether gravity exists, and the rest, none of which has any importance as far as salvation is concerned?

 

[Strong in Him]

Sooner the better.

??
What, you want to tell God, face to face, that you went back on your word and called one of his children a liar?
You want to wait until it's too late to repent to do that?
You want to risk hearing that he is disappointed in you?

Rather you than me.

 

[Apple Sky]

Don't you think that Jesus Christ being the only Saviour on Whom sinners must believe to have eternal life is immensely more important than the shape of the earth, the nature of Antarctica, the moon landings, whether gravity exists, and the rest, none of which has any importance as far as salvation is concerned?

Of course I do, but this thread is not about Salvation it's about F/E.

 

[prodromos]

Of course I do, but this thread is not about Salvation it's about F/E.

So it's a thread about falsehood.

 

[Apple Sky]

??
What, you want to tell God, face to face, that you went back on your word and called one of his children a liar?
You want to wait until it's too late to repent to do that?
You want to risk hearing that he is disappointed in you?

Rather you than me.

My beliefs are so strong that the earth is flat & that we have never been to the moon, I'll risk it.

 

[Apple Sky]

So it's a thread about falsehood.

No, it's about the truth.