Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

[Aryeh Jay]

Is there solid evidence of that?

Follow their orders without question but don't believe anything they actually say.

Genius!

 

[Servus]

Follow their orders without question but don't believe anything they actually say.

Genius!

That didn't come anywhere close to answering the question of is there any solid evidence. It'd be cool if someone just gave an honest answer instead of non sequitur deflection.

 

[BCP1928]

That didn't come anywhere close to answering the question of is there any solid evidence. It'd be cool if someone just gave an honest answer instead of non sequitur deflection.

It's not worth the effort. Why should you care if it actually happened if you think it would have been the Christian thing to do anyway?

 

[Servus]

It's not worth the effort. Why should you care if it actually happened if you think it would have been the Christian thing to do anyway?

*sigh* more deflection.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

That didn't come anywhere close to answering the question of is there any solid evidence. It'd be cool if someone just gave an honest answer instead of non sequitur deflection.

If you don't believe his spoken words that he said as being solid evidence, well there's not much to say.

 

[Servus]

...oh really? By pardoning a convicted drug kingpin who turned Honduras into a narco-state? That's quite the message! I'm sure the cartels are quaking in their boots after the mighty USA blows up a few mule boats....

What was Trump's reason for pardoning Hernandez?

 

[Servus]

If you don't believe his spoken words that he said as being solid evidence, well there's not much to say.

What actual evidence is there that Hegseth said "kill everybody"? So far that's a supposed claim made by a supposed anonymous source.

 

[wing2000]

What was Trump's reason for pardoning Hernandez?

...catch up here:

Trump to pardon Ex-Honduras President Guilty of Drug Trafficking and conspiring to import cocaine into the United States

Trump Announces Pardon for Honduran Ex-President Convicted in Drug Case President Trump announced on Friday afternoon his intention to grant “a Full and Complete Pardon” to a former president of Honduras, Juan Orlando Hernández, who was found guilty by an American jury last year of conspiring to...

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[Servus]

...catch up here:

Trump to pardon Ex-Honduras President Guilty of Drug Trafficking and conspiring to import cocaine into the United States

Trump Announces Pardon for Honduran Ex-President Convicted in Drug Case President Trump announced on Friday afternoon his intention to grant “a Full and Complete Pardon” to a former president of Honduras, Juan Orlando Hernández, who was found guilty by an American jury last year of conspiring to...

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I already know Trump's reasons for pardoning Hernandez, but I wanted to see you list them.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

They say for every boat stopped full of drugs headed to the US saves around 20,000 Americans from drug addiction and overdoses. There have been around a million drug death overdoses in the last 25 years. Which is more deaths than in all the major wars of the 20th century.

Musk has a good take on this and I tend to agree.

Most People Don't Realize What Trump's Venezuela Move Really Means - Until Now! | Elon Musk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksuP9MO6oLs

Cool.

People accused of drug trafficking still deserve a day in court.

 

[wing2000]

I already know Trump's reasons for pardoning Hernandez, but I wanted to see you list them.

I don't care what Trump's reasons are because nothing could justify pardoning a convicted president who used his country as a staging ground for importing hundreds of tons of cocaine into the United States. What's the point of blowing up small boats if one head of the cartel snake is given a free pass?

 

[essentialsaltes]

If you thought defending Epstein's ephebophila was as low as Megyn Kelly could go...​

Megyn Kelly Stands By Second Strike To Finish Off Survivors Of Alleged Drug Boat: 'I'd Really Like To See Them Suffer'​

" I would like Trump and Hegseth to make it last a long time so they lose a limb and bleed out a little," Kelly added​

Speaking during her show on Sirius XM, Kelly said she not only wanted to "see them killed in the water, whether they're on the boat or in the water," but would also "really like to see them suffer."

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

I already know Trump's reasons for pardoning Hernandez, but I wanted to see you list them.

Trump pardoning Hernandez means Trump doesn't care about American consuming drugs, It means nothing to Trump. So, Trump is trying to cause a war, to take their land. Not to protect us from drug overdoses. They don't mean anything to Trump.

 

[RDKirk]

Is there solid evidence of that?

Solid evidence that Hegseth attributed the order to Admiral Bradley?

https://x.com/PeteHegseth/status/1995643490152128919

 

[DaisyDay]

This must do wonders for the moral among admirals and generals.

Them that's left post-purge.

 

[Palmfever]

No one has that intention. Regardless of the "law of armed conflict" once upon a time it would have been considered an atrocity to sink an enemy vessel and then machine gun the survivors in the water. Once upon a time Christians would have lamented their deaths, even though they were the enemy. I guess we were just just inaccurately informed about the Gospel of Christ.

Kill 'em all, right? OK, this is a Christian forum and it's good of you to instruct us about the Christian position on the incident.

It is the 'War on drugs.' Yes it is a war.

When one person enters the US and commits just one murder, rape or assault they should have been stopped by whatever means prior to the act, beginning with proper vetting. Yet they come in illegally so no vetting process. When drug cartels send weapons of mass destruction into the country, which they are doing, killing around 100,000 annually, they should be stopped by whatever means necessary. It is a mandate of US government to protect it's citizens.

Drug cartels are not seeking asylum. They do not consider your life or welfare.

If you wish to make this a Christian issue consider these words;

Romans
' Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended.

Peter
Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14 or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 15 For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people.


The evil men who choose to commit these crimes remind me of these words.

'With the reasonable man I will reason.
With the fool I will plead,
But to the tyrant I will show no quarter.'

 

[Pommer]

It's likey that most everyone didn't know that there was a law of armed conflict, until their media made an issue out of it for them.

You say this like it’s an “issue”; isn’t this what the Fourth Estate is for, exactly?

With the intention of making going against drug smugglers as being immoral and illegal.

I’d like for us to be better than the bad guys. Out “bad guysing“ the bad guys isn’t any sort of goal for any non-fascist nation.

Being against actions taken against crime has always been the theme, from drug trafficking to shoplifting.

Holy Dostoyevsky, Batman!

 

[BCP1928]

It is the 'War on drugs.' Yes it is a war.

When one person enters the US and commits just one murder, rape or assault they should have been stopped by whatever means prior to the act, beginning with proper vetting. Yet they come in illegally so no vetting process. When drug cartels send weapons of mass destruction into the country, which they are doing, killing around 100,000 annually, they should be stopped by whatever means necessary. It is a mandate of US government to protect it's citizens.

Drug cartels are not seeking asylum. They do not consider your life or welfare.

If you wish to make this a Christian issue consider these words;

Romans
' Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended.

Peter
Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14 or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 15 For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people.


The evil men who choose to commit these crimes remind me of these words.

'With the reasonable man I will reason.
With the fool I will plead,
But to the tyrant I will show no quarter.'

So here we have some of these "evil men" in a speedboat nowhere near the US and not headed there probably loaded with cocaine. The boat is blown up, killing many of the crew and the survivors clinging to the wreckage are murdered. I put it to you that no possible interpretation of the Gospel of Christ could justify killing those two men. Yet Christians praise the action and in so doing have destroyed the moral credibility of the Christian faith. It is finished.

 

[Servus]

Solid evidence that Hegseth attributed the order to Admiral Bradley?

https://x.com/PeteHegseth/status/1995643490152128919

That's not evidence that Hegseth or Bradley ordered drug smugglers clinging to boat wreckage to be gunned down.

 

[Servus]

I don't care what Trump's reasons are because nothing could justify pardoning a convicted president who used his country as a staging ground for importing hundreds of tons of cocaine into the United States. What's the point of blowing up small boats if one head of the cartel snake is given a free pass?

Trump's reasons for pardoning Hernandez tell a different story. Are you sure you know the whole story on what happened?