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[David Lamb]

So in your view Genesis 1: 6 & 7 must be wrong ?

And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

What else could hold the water above the firmament ?

We are not told that the firmament holds or supports the waters which are above it, just that there were waters above and below the firmament.

 

[Apple Sky]

So where is there any biblical reference to the firmament being solid

AI over veiw
Biblical references that suggest the firmament was solid, or a solid dome, are primarily in the Genesis 1:6-8 creation account, where God divides the waters above and below, and in Job 37:18, which describes the sky as "strong" and like a molten looking glass. This interpretation is based on the Hebrew word raqia, often translated as "firmament" or "vault," which has been understood to mean a solid structure.

 

[Strong in Him]

This is not what God meant.

You have no idea what was in the mind of Almighty God when he created the world, and when he inspired Moses to write Genesis.

Your own beliefs will not allow you to consider any possibility other than your own.

 

[Apple Sky]

We are not told that the firmament holds or supports the waters which are above it, just that there were waters above and below the firmament.

Well it certainly isn't the clouds.

 

[Apple Sky]

You have no idea what was in the mind of Almighty God when he created the world, and when he inspired Moses to write Genesis.

I agree, I shouldn't have said it that like that.

 

[Strong in Him]

AI over veiw
Biblical references that suggest the firmament was solid, or a solid dome, are primarily in the Genesis 1:6-8 creation account, where God divides the waters above and below, and in Job 37:18, which describes the sky as "strong" and like a molten looking glass. This interpretation is based on the Hebrew word raqia, often translated as "firmament" or "vault," which has been understood to mean a solid structure.

1. You were asked for Biblical references to the firmament being solid - shame you can only provide AI overview.
2. You, yourself, have said that "firmament" and "sky" are different things. So why are you repeating the verse which says that the SKY is like molten (melted) glass? Your answer to the firmament being solid is, "well the sky looks like liquid glass".
3. It might have been understood to be a solid structure - that is not the same as saying that it IS. Understanding can be wrong.

 

[Strong in Him]

So in your view Genesis 1: 6 & 7 must be wrong ?

 

[David Lamb]

AI over veiw
Biblical references that suggest the firmament was solid, or a solid dome, are primarily in the Genesis 1:6-8 creation account, where God divides the waters above and below, and in Job 37:18, which describes the sky as "strong" and like a molten looking glass. This interpretation is based on the Hebrew word raqia, often translated as "firmament" or "vault," which has been understood to mean a solid structure.

I asked you for a biblical reference that actually tells us that the firmament is solid, and you give me an AI overview. You will notice that AI says raqia is often (not always) translated as "firmament" or "vault." As I have said many times, it can equally mean "expanse." Can you find just one verse where we are told that the firmament is a solid dome?

 

[Apple Sky]

You don't understand what the Scriptures mean by "firmament".

Yes I do, it means raqia and it's what divides us from the aether & it's what courses sun dogs & rainbows, look up refraction.

 

[David Lamb]

Yes I do, it means raqia and it's what divides us from the aether & it's what courses sun dogs & rainbows, look up refraction.

I think you meant "causes," not "courses." A solid dome is not what causes rainbows. The Met Office website says:

"A rainbow is an arc-shaped spectrum of light which is created by refraction and reflection.
Rainbows are caused when rays of light from the Sun hit water droplets which reflect some of the light back towards an observer. The water droplets are usually raindrops, but could also be spray from a waterfall, a fountain, or even fog. To see a rainbow, you must have the Sun shining behind you and the water droplets in front of you.
Sunlight is made up of a spectrum of different colours that look white when we see them all mixed together. Since light travels more slowly through water than air, the light is bent as it enters the raindrop and becomes refracted, splitting the light into the spectrum of colours. Some of the light is reflected off the internal surface at the back of the raindrop, which works like a mirror to reverse the order of the colours to provide the familiar sequence of a rainbow.
The amount of the rainbow arc that is visible depends on how high the Sun is in the sky. When the Sun is very high, you may see a rainbow that only just appears above the horizon. On the other hand, if you are lucky enough to see a rainbow from a plane or the top of a mountain you might be able to see the whole circle."

The National Weather Service (I think it's American) says this about the cause of sundogs:

"Sundogs:
Sundogs are colored spots of light that develop due to the refraction of light through ice crystals. They are located approximately 22 degrees either left, right, or both, from the sun, depending on where the ice crystals are present. The colors usually go from red closest to the sun, out to blue on the outside of the sundog. Sundogs are also known as mock suns or parhelia, which means "with the sun"."

 

[Apple Sky]

It might have been understood to be a solid structure -

Molten glass also known to be 'Sodium Silicate'
It is available in liquid or solid form and is known for its use as a strong, heat-resistant adhesive

 

[David Lamb]

Molten glass also known to be 'Sodium Silicate'
It is available in liquid or solid form and is known for its use as a strong, heat-resistant adhesive

I looked up the meaning of the word "molten", and found:

"(especially of materials with a high melting point, such as metal and glass) liquefied by heat."

If t is solid, it is no longer molten.

 

[Strong in Him]

Molten glass also known to be 'Sodium Silicate'
It is available in liquid or solid form and is known for its use as a strong, heat-resistant adhesive

You're not answering the question. I don't think you understand it.

You have been asked for a verse which says that the firmament is solid.
You quote a verse which says the sky is AS molten glass.
You have said that the firmament and the sky are different things.

You have also been told that the verse says "the sky is AS molten glass" and not "the sky IS molten glass."
Either you don't understand similes or you are pretending not to so that you can claim Scriptural backing for your wacky ideas.

 

[Apple Sky]

The Met Office website says:

"A rainbow is an arc-shaped spectrum of light which is created by refraction and reflection.
Rainbows are caused when rays of light from the Sun hit water droplets which reflect some of the light back towards an observer.

This is their interpretation of rainbows & sun dogs, they will say anything rather than admit they are caused by the reflection off the mirrored Dome.

 

[Strong in Him]

Molten glass also known to be 'Sodium Silicate'
It is available in liquid or solid form and is known for its use as a strong, heat-resistant adhesive

Now you're claiming the sky is a heat resistant adhesive?
How do we feel the warmth of the sun if it's within a heat resistant dome?

 

[David Lamb]

This is their interpretation of rainbows & sun dogs, they will say anything rather than admit they are caused by the reflection off the mirrored Dome.

So now you are saying that the firmament is not only a solid dome, it is a curved mirror. And don't say that is based on Job 37:18, because that doesn't even mention the firmament. As we keep trying to point out, it says that the sky is as molten glass.

 

[Apple Sky]

I looked up the meaning of the word "molten", and found:

"(especially of materials with a high melting point, such as metal and glass) liquefied by heat."

If t is solid, it is no longer molten.

Another name for liquid glass is.
Sodium silicate.

Sodium silicate & is available in liquid or solid form and is known for its use as a strong, heat-resistant adhesive also the technical and common name for a mixture of such compounds, chiefly known as waterglass, water glass, or liquid glass.

 

[Strong in Him]

Another name for liquid glass is.
Sodium silicate.

Sodium silicate & is available in liquid or solid form and is known for its use as a strong, heat-resistant adhesive also the technical and common name for a mixture of such compounds, chiefly known as waterglass, water glass, or liquid glass.

So Job said that the sky is a heat resistant adhesive?

 

[Apple Sky]

So now you are saying that the firmament is not only a solid dome, it is a curved mirror.

Not sure what it's made of but what ever it is, it's reflecting the rainbows & the sun dogs.

 

[Apple Sky]

So Job said that the sky is a heat resistant adhesive?

Something like that ???