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Teens Who Savagely Attacked Well-Known DOGE Staffer Avoid Jail Time

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Tech mogul and former DOGE chief Elon Musk expressed his disgust with the lenient sentence in an X post. “This was a racist verdict by a racist judge,” Musk said of Judge Kendra Briggs, who is black. “The simple test to apply is if the races has been reversed, the White kids would be in prison. Equal justice for all!”

Not a surprise, seems pretty typical for D.C.
 

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Tech mogul and former DOGE chief Elon Musk expressed his disgust with the lenient sentence in an X post. “This was a racist verdict by a racist judge,” Musk said of Judge Kendra Briggs, who is black. “The simple test to apply is if the races has been reversed, the White kids would be in prison. Equal justice for all!”

Not a surprise, seems pretty typical for D.C.
Musk certainly showed his racist side. Being 15 makes a big difference but it does seem rather lenient.
 
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Tech mogul and former DOGE chief Elon Musk expressed his disgust with the lenient sentence in an X post. “This was a racist verdict by a racist judge,” Musk said of Judge Kendra Briggs, who is black. “The simple test to apply is if the races has been reversed, the White kids would be in prison. Equal justice for all!”

Not a surprise, seems pretty typical for D.C.
I’m not seeing the race angle here. I thought the complaint was cities like DC were soft on all crime.

What evidence is there this judge has in the past issued harsher sentences against white defendants?
 
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Tech mogul and former DOGE chief Elon Musk expressed his disgust with the lenient sentence in an X post. “This was a racist verdict by a racist judge,” Musk said of Judge Kendra Briggs, who is black. “The simple test to apply is if the races has been reversed, the White kids would be in prison. Equal justice for all!”

Not a surprise, seems pretty typical for D.C.
Yikes!
 
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That's exactly it. No matter the brutality, they're teens, aren't they?
Well he seemed to have healed pretty well and there doesn't seem to have been any permanent injury inflicted from what I know. As teens, yeah, doubtful they'd get jail time for that.
 
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Well he seemed to have healed pretty well and there doesn't seem to have been any permanent injury inflicted from what I know. As teens, yeah, doubtful they'd get jail time for that.
For brutally attacking someone? Yes, they should get prison time.
 
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For brutally attacking someone? Yes, they should get prison time.
As teens, doubtful. And we are stretching "brutally" if that brutality didn't end up causing anything permanent. Doubt that's a legal term either.
 
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Well he seemed to have healed pretty well and there doesn't seem to have been any permanent injury inflicted from what I know. As teens, yeah, doubtful they'd get jail time for that.
He very easily could have been killed. The lack of accountability means more of those juveniles will eventually end up in prison.
 
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He very easily could have been killed. The lack of accountability means more of those juveniles will eventually end up in prison.
Could he? He had no permanent injuries, so considering that and how well he healed up in a few weeks, I'm kinda doubtful of your assesment that he was in danger of dying in this case. Considering the outcome of the situation with no permanent harm, jail seems to be a bit excessive. They pleased guilty to assault too, didn't seem to try to deny that. Were they first timers too?
 
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Could he? He had no permanent injuries, so considering that and how well he healed up...

Well, I don’t want to live in a society where people can just beat other people up without consequences, just as long as they "heal up".

...Though, I'll admit, if I were somehow beat up by some thugs, I would like to at least be able to get $40,000. for the inconvenience. That would be better for me than them receiving jail time.
 
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As teens, doubtful. And we are stretching "brutally" if that brutality didn't end up causing anything permanent. Doubt that's a legal term either.

Their parents should be paying the price... In dollars.

Say no to thuggery.
 
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Well, I don’t want to live in a society where people can just beat other people up without consequences, just as long as they "heal up".
Oh? So you're claiming the kids had no consequences?
 
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Oh? So you're claiming the kids had no consequences?
One got one year probation, the other nine months probation. You can get that for shoplifting a t-shirt.
 
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As teens, doubtful. And we are stretching "brutally" if that brutality didn't end up causing anything permanent. Doubt that's a legal term either.

The victim suffered concussion, which is basically brain injury, so it's serious. And a non-custodial sentence for a gang assault by 8 people versus one is pathetically light.

Then again, this is the country that pardons people who riot and storm their parliament, so I'm not in the least surprised.
 
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Musk certainly showed his racist side. Being 15 makes a big difference but it does seem rather lenient.

I don't know that he was exhibiting racism...

On the other end of the coin, him calling the judge racist was the wrong term to use.

"The Judge was employing social bias" would be a better descriptor, but I guess that doesn't get the same amount of views/likes/traffic as merely calling people racist on social media.


I hate when people casually toss around "racism" accusations like Musk did in his post. It's a word with a specific meaning. The word means a belief that one race is superior to another.

So if a judge gives a lenient sentence (even based on a racial backdrop), that's not inherently racist.

For instance, the judge using the rationale of:
"Well, these are just kids, I don't want to ruin their lives"
or even "Well, Black teens living in poverty have had a rough road, I don't want to pile on by giving them a super strict punishment"

They're both employing social biases, but neither is conveying the idea "this judge thinks Black people are better than White people"
 
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"The Judge was employing social bias" would be a better descriptor,...
lol. I agree. And white Americans who owned black slaves were just employing social bias.
 
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lol. I agree. And white Americans who owned black slaves were just employing social bias.

There's a key distinction, there has to be the mindset of "Race A is superior to Race B" in order for something to be racist by definition, the statements of that time period of slavery would be overtly racist.

For instance, the VP of the Confederacy (Alexander Stephens) in his "Cornerstone Speech" said:
Our new government['s]...foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery—subordination to the superior race—is his natural and normal condition.


Even the statements of people at the time opposing slavery were racist
Lincoln made the statement:
I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races ... I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races from living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be a position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.



Whereas, a judge can say "Being a poor Black teen in the US is an uphill battle, so I'm going to go light on the sentencing"...that's not the judge saying "Black people are superior to White people".

While it can still lead to some disparate sentencing decisions (which are still a problem worth discussing in the context of equality under the law), it's not "racist" by definition, as it's not coming from a place of perceived racial superiority.

That's why we have to adhere to definitions and choose words carefully.



That is, in my opinion, the problem with lumping in racially motivated decisions and other social biases under the umbrella of "racism". The intent is far different in most cases.

For the record, I don't agree with the judge's decision in this case. If people gang up on a person 3 on 1 and give them a concussion, they should receive the full consequences of those actions. But I don't see anything that suggests that this judge made that decision based on a sentiment that "black people are better than white people"
 
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