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Kamala Harris says picking a gay man for VP was too big of a risk

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I think if a person can do the job well they should get the job. That doesn't work in politics though
You won't hear me disagree with that sentiment, that's for sure.
 
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You are complaining... You started with complaining about Kamala over Pete, then Tim over Pete, and now you're accusing me of personal attacks.

For the record, I said you're being dishonest, which isn't a personal attack. It's a statement that you're moving goalposts to keep from being pinned down in a losing argument, which is true. When you want to have an actual discussion, let me know, but this whole pretending to be a victim thing when the problem is you just don't like your words reflected back to you is boring.
I haven't moved any imaginary goalposts and I haven't complained about anything.
I don't care who Kamala picked for her VP I was just pointing out her hypocrisy.
Stating the obvious is not complaining
 
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Everything is boring to you. I haven't moved any imaginary goalposts and I haven't complained about anything.
I don't care who Kamala picked for her VP I was just pointing out her hypocrisy.
Stating the obvious is not complaining
You explained it perfectly just a few posts ago.

Politics is not where you get to do every single thing you actually believe unless youre in the safest of safe districts. Its frankly naive to expect otherwise.
 
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I don't care who Kamala picked for her VP I was just pointing out her hypocrisy.
It's not hypocrisy to recognize a reality and choose to act on it.

In this case, choosing a VP who, in reality, was more likely to help her get elected.
 
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It's not hypocrisy to recognize a reality and choose to act on it.

In this case, choosing a VP who, in reality, was more likely to help her get elected.
Here's a thought, maybe she should have kept it to herself .
From excerpts of her book and her interviews it seems there are a lot of things she should have kept to herself.
She's burning all her bridges blaming everyone else, not smart if she plans to run again
 
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Others don't agree we've been on the moon, live on a round earth, and that 1x1=1. That doesn't make them right.
Is everybody that doesn't agree with you is a flat-earther?
I certainly could give you names, but I've been informed that will land me a ban. Instead, you'll just have to just not be deliberately obtuse, looking around at the state of everything from this forum to the demographic of people that elected Trump.
So I'm deliberately obtuse for not agreeing with you?
I understand why Shapiro wasn't chosen, but it had nothing to do with the mythical antifa and pro=Hamas nonsense that has become the newest Republican boogeyman. It had more to do with his being Jewish and not a predictable Democrat, but one who's willing to fight with his own party but then ultimately capitulate. The inability to reliably predict what he'd make a battle, what he'd let slide, and his lack of tact within handling his own party made him a liability. However, he would have likely brought PA with him and I think he understood the nuances of campaigning on a world stage that Waltz didn't have.
Shapiro did not have the favor of several constituencies within the Democratic Party, bogeyman or not. He will not have the favor of those same bogeyman constituencies in 2028. He is lucky they don't primary him out actually.
 
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It's not hypocrisy to recognize a reality and choose to act on it.

In this case, choosing a VP who, in reality, was more likely to help her get elected.
Walz apparently wasn't that guy.
 
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It occurs to me that in explaining why she didn't pick Mayor Pete and some other things that she's said Kamala seems to want credit for what she "almost did "
She should get credit for what she almost did, and what she didn't do as well. Why not make her happy.
 
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Are you telling us she’s not very liberal?


Because that’s what democrats have been saying about her since like 2019.
Whatever. I wouldn't call her a moderate. She might actually have positions that would surprise us all.
 
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It's not hypocrisy to recognize a reality and choose to act on it.

In this case, choosing a VP who, in reality, was more likely to help her get elected.
The mayor of a small city (~100k people) and a McKinsey consultant. He was not a good choice. He may have potential, but needs some experience. (Even less qualified for the role than the 18-month senator funded by his old hedge fund boss.)
 
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The mayor of a small city (~100k people) and a McKinsey consultant. He was not a good choice. He may have potential, but needs some experience. (Even less qualified for the role than the 18-month senator funded by his old hedge fund boss.)
But he was not selected because he was gay, not because of his lack of experience.
Kamala said they just couldn't risk it.
 
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But he was not selected because he was gay, not because of his lack of experience.
Kamala said they just couldn't risk it.
I am aware that is what she said. I just reject the notion gay or straight that he was ever a good choice.
 
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Clearly moral character doesn't matter much for Democrats OR Republicans. Or they would pick better candidates. Look at their picks. And it matters only for a minority of voters.
 
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Harris was too big of a risk herself.
But it's good she ran, it hurt their chances and thank the Lord we didn't end up with her as President.
She was a horrible VP, so she would have been a worse President.
 
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