Charlie Kirk shooting suspect Tyler Robinson could face firing squad

[Aldebaran]

Ketanji Brown Jackson.

LOL! Too easy! The woman who doesn't know what a woman is? She's a real-life example of what college students in the video in post #235 end up being after they graduate. Big on degrees, with little real-world knowledge.
Perhaps Brown Jackson was the one at the 1:10 mark who didn't even know how many minutes are in a quarter of an hour.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

LOL! Too easy! The woman who doesn't know what a woman is? She's a real-life example of what college students in the video in post #235 end up being after they graduate. Big on degrees, with little real-world knowledge.
Perhaps Brown Jackson was the one at the 1:10 mark who didn't even know how many minutes are in a quarter of an hour.

She's not in the video in post #235. So do you believe she didn't learn the subject matter for her Juris doctor cum laude? If she managed that she has enough brain processing power to be taken seriously. Getting a juris doctor, even without cum laude is hard and requires both brain processing power and discipline. It doesn't make you right in all instances but it shows that you have brain processing power.

 

[Aldebaran]

She's not in the video in post #235. So do you believe she didn't learn the subject matter for her Juris doctor cum laude? If she managed that she has enough brain processing power to be taken seriously. Getting a juris doctor, even without cum laude is hard and requires both brain processing power and discipline. It doesn't make you right in all instances but it shows that you have brain processing power.

But not enough processing power for the woman to process the definition of a woman? Not very confidence-inspiring!
Like I said, big on degrees, small on real-world knowledge.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

But not enough processing power for the woman to process the definition of a woman? Not very confidence-inspiring!
Like I said, big on degrees, small on real-world knowledge.

So do you believe she didn't learn the subject matter when graduating cum laude? If you believe she learnt it, do you believe that it doesn't require brain processing power?

 

[Aldebaran]

So do you believe she didn't learn the subject matter when graduating cum laude? If you believe she learnt it, do you believe that it doesn't require brain processing power?

Dude, she didn't even have the ability to define what a woman is when asked the question for the biggest career move of her life! Her brain wasn't processing basic information even at that time--and that's after graduating.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

Dude, she didn't even have the ability to define what a woman is when asked the question for the biggest career move of her life! Her brain wasn't processing basic information even at that time--and that's after graduating.

Is it ok, that I interpret your answer as you believe she didn't learn the subject matter when graduating cum laude? You seem to try to avoid giving a straight answer.

 

[Servus]

Is it ok, that I interpret your answer as you believe she didn't learn the subject matter when graduating cum laude? You seem to try to avoid giving a straight answer.

Some people manage to pull off impressive academic achievements, which somehow doesn't translate into real world functioning. There's an MD/PhD on Usenet who's totally out of touch with reality. Had his license revoked because he refused to submit to a psych evaluation.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

How does that apply to the 4 women named by Kirk? If the PhD have managed to create some original research, they are not lacking in brain processing power. They might be delusional, but that is not brain processing power.

 

[Hazelelponi]

How does that apply to the 4 women named by Kirk? If the PhD have managed to create some original research, they are not lacking in brain processing power. They might be delusional, but that is not brain processing power.

When we’re talking about delusion, we aren’t talking about someone having more processing power but rather misapplied processing power. A delusion can churn away endlessly, like a computer running programs that serve no useful purpose.

If a mind insists “1 + 1 ≠ 2,” the brain may still be processing, but the outcome is detached from reality—so it’s wasted computation.

Think of it like having too many unnecessary programs running in the background on a computer. They eat up memory and processing speed, leaving the system sluggish and ineffective until you shut them down.

Deficits in Executive and Memory Processes in Delusional Disorder: A Case-Control Study - PMC

Delusional disorder has been traditionally considered a psychotic syndrome that does not evolve to cognitive deterioration. However, to date, very little empirical research has been done to explore cognitive executive components and memory processes ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Study: Deficits in Executive and Memory Processes in Delusional Disorder (Ibanez-Casas et al., 2013)

Compared people diagnosed with Delusional Disorder (DD) vs controls on tests of executive function (flexibility/shifting, inhibition/impulsivity, updating) + memory tasks.

What they found: Individuals with DD did significantly poorer on most executive function components (shifting/flexibility, impulse control, updating) and memory. This supports the idea that having delusional beliefs correlates with reduced capacity in things like switching attention, inhibiting irrelevant thoughts, and integrating new information.

 

[Servus]

How does that apply to the 4 women named by Kirk? If the PhD have managed to create some original research, they are not lacking in brain processing power. They might be delusional, but that is not brain processing power.

But it does involve brain processing. Great in some areas, poor in others.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

But it does involve brain processing. Great in some areas, poor in others.

Haven't they managed to have a quite successful careers. Doesn't sound like a person lacking in brain processing power to me.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Haven't they managed to have a quite successful careers. Doesn't sound like a person lacking in brain processing power to me.

So does the woman who slept her way to the top.

She was smart enough to use all the cheats, but not smart enough to have legitimately earned her place.

Is the highschool jock cheating his way through math class smart? Or is he just smart enough to cheat?

Let's live in a land where there's actual equality under the law, and people are judged by the content of their character, and not the color of their skin.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

So does the woman who slept her way to the top.

She was smart enough to use all the cheats, but not smart enough to have legitimately earned her place.

Is the highschool jock cheating his way through math class smart? Or is he just smart enough to cheat?

Let's live in a land where there's actual equality under the law, and people are judged by the content of their character, and not the color of their skin.

So what makes the 4 ladies Kirk mentioned lacking in brain processing power? I understand that you feel it is unfair with affirmative action, does that mean that every person that have benefited from it are lacking in brain processing power? It seems incredulous to me, especially since they got their undergraduate and professional degrees (one graduating cum laude) and managing successful careers. Of course they have brain processing power to be taken seriously. The criteria is not that they are geniuses.

 

[Aldebaran]

Is it ok, that I interpret your answer as you believe she didn't learn the subject matter when graduating cum laude? You seem to try to avoid giving a straight answer.

You've been given straight answers, with explanation. They just weren't the answers you were trying to railroad me into giving.

 

[sjastro]

As a foreigner who is baffled by many things pertaining to America, one of which is how DEI is applied.

In my country to do a university course etc, there is an entrance standard and a graduation standard for the course.

The whole point of DEI is to lower the entrance standard to encourage groups that were previously under represented such as women in undergraduate mathematics and physics courses.
The graduation standard remains the same, the outcome being there is a larger percentage of individuals who fail to meet the requirements of the course.

There is chatter in this thread which seems to imply it is the graduation standard that has been lowered which I find hard to believe, or is this yet another lie perpetrated by your President?

 

[Hans Blaster]

As a foreigner who is baffled by many things pertaining to America, one of which is how DEI is applied.

In my country to do a university course etc, there is an entrance standard and a graduation standard for the course.

The whole point of DEI is to lower the entrance standard to encourage groups that were previously under represented such as women in undergraduate mathematics and physics courses.
The graduation standard remains the same, the outcome being there is a larger percentage of individuals who fail to meet the requirements of the course.

That's pretty much what it is intended to do and how it works. It is (and should be) about finding equally capable (post-training) people who were otherwise look over due to systematic societal issues.

There is chatter in this thread which seems to imply it is the graduation standard that has been lowered which I find hard to believe, or is this yet another lie perpetrated by your President?

Trump is saturated in this lie. The right-wing/leaning commentators have been pushing these notions for at least 40 years as "reverse discrimination" and similar things.

Trump himself has spent his whole adult life believing his sucess was based on his personal superiority. Whether that be the belief that people are rich because they are smarter/better, or the same for the success of men or "whites". (That his exposure to Christian comes through the prototype of the "prosperity Gospel" doesn't do him any favors either.)

 

[sjastro]

That's pretty much what it is intended to do and how it works. It is (and should be) about finding equally capable (post-training) people who were otherwise look over due to systematic societal issues.

Trump is saturated in this lie. The right-wing/leaning commentators have been pushing these notions for at least 40 years as "reverse discrimination" and similar things.

Trump himself has spent his whole adult life believing his sucess was based on his personal superiority. Whether that be the belief that people are rich because they are smarter/better, or the same for the success of men or "whites". (That his exposure to Christian comes through the prototype of the "prosperity Gospel" doesn't do him any favors either.)

Thanks for that.
The question arises whether Charlie Kirk's comments about Black pilots and DEI was a result of being naive enough to fall this lie, or knowingly perpetrating the lie.

On the subject of Trump's personal superiority his academic record states otherwise.

2 — Trump Lied About Graduating “First In His Class”

Trump has repeatedly claimed (and allowed media outlets to report on his behalf) that he graduated ‘first in his class’ from the Wharton School at Penn. In fact, he wasn’t close—Trump graduated without honors. Some schools base honors on GPA percentile, but Wharton bases them simply on GPA, which means that in order to graduate without honors, his GPA had to have been less than a 3.40—or else that he was sanctioned for academic integrity or student conduct violations. What’s interesting about this is that it’s not the GPA itself, but the lie, that Trump may have been concerned about. Trump’s college GPA wasn’t a big deal until he made it a big deal by speculating about Obama’s GPA, lying about his own records and threatening his schools if they released them.

Here's Why Donald Trump Doesn't Want Anyone To Know His Grades Or SAT Scores

Trump has a reputation for projection, so it’s possible his vocal criticisms of Obama’s academic record are more similar to his own record than he’d admit.

www.forbes.com

 

[FreeinChrist]

So do you believe she didn't learn the subject matter when graduating cum laude? If you believe she learnt it, do you believe that it doesn't require brain processing power?

In some situations, what appears to be a woman is not really woman biologically. I had a young patient that appeared to be female (no surgery involved). She was raised as a girl because that is what she looked like at birth. But problems developed, and the breasts did not develop, so DNA testing was done. She was a genetic male and at some point in utero, development of the sex organs for a male did not happen. So she looked female. She saw herself as female. It isn't always so simple a thing.

Jackson is a very intelligent person. Part of the right dismisses her as 'a DEI hire' which is a way to say that she only got where she was because she is black, but not so obviously racist though it is imo. (I am not saying anyone here is racist). Those who only see male/female without being aware of the many complications that occur in developing humans also think others are low intelligence. Jackson is likely higher in intelligence than many who try to insult her.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Thanks for that.
The question arises whether Charlie Kirk's comments about Black pilots and DEI was a result of being naive enough to fall this lie, or knowingly perpetrating the lie.

Kirk's thing wasn't talking about race, but he spent enough time on camera that his attitudes slipped out from time to time. The attitudes of far too many people (like Kirk) reflect an assumption (without cause) that any minority person in a position of trust must have gotten their as a gift. The answer is instead...

On the subject of Trump's personal superiority his academic record states otherwise.

... people like Trump get their places and position without merit because of who they are (or rather who their parents are).

Here's Why Donald Trump Doesn't Want Anyone To Know His Grades Or SAT Scores

Trump has a reputation for projection, so it’s possible his vocal criticisms of Obama’s academic record are more similar to his own record than he’d admit.

www.forbes.com

 

[Aldebaran]

Kirk's thing wasn't talking about race, but he spent enough time on camera that his attitudes slipped out from time to time. The attitudes of far too many people (like Kirk) reflect an assumption (without cause) that any minority person in a position of trust must have gotten their as a gift. The answer is instead...

No, not any minority person. Just the ones who had the bar lowered for them because they weren't qualified, because TPTB decided there not be enough of a certain color employed in a certain area.

... people like Trump get their places and position without merit because of who they are (or rather who their parents are).

Actual Trump got his position by the vote of the people. Remember that "democracy" thing? Good thing it was saved in time for the 2024 election, eh?