Trump says ‘we have to beat the hell’ out of ‘radical left lunatics’ after Kirk killing

[wing2000]

My statement was a response to what someone else said. Go back to that for context.

Noted, I retract my comment.

 

[iluvatar5150]

No, you're putting words in my mouth. You guys have a predilection for arguing in bad faith.

I'm not putting words in your mouth. You're just missing my point, which was that, even if we give Trump the benefit of the doubt and interpret his words as charitably and as figuratively as possible, there's still a segment of his fanbase that won't interpret them that way. They'll see it as a call to literal physical violence.

 

[Servus]

I'm not putting words in your mouth. You're just missing my point, which was that, even if we give Trump the benefit of the doubt and interpret his words as charitably and as figuratively as possible, there's still a segment of his fanbase that won't interpret them that way. They'll see it as a call to literal physical violence.

Well I choose to conjecture that he was speaking figuratively. And you're free to conjure up the absolute worse scenario you can imagine.

 

[Vambram]

Stephen Miller...whispering his sweet nothings into Trump's ear:

Last Thursday morning, less than 24 hours after the shooting, Miller tweeted out a thesis statement. “There is an ideology that has steadily been growing in this country,” he wrote, “which hates everything that is good, righteous and beautiful and celebrates everything that is warped, twisted and depraved.” This ideology has “one unifying thread,” he added: “the insatiable thirst for destruction.”

“It is an ideology that leads, always, inevitably and willfully, to violence,” Miller went on. “The fate of millions depends on the defeat of this wicked ideology.”

It’s Stephen Miller’s Show Now

The most powerful guy in Trump’s ear has a plan for how to respond to the death of Charlie Kirk. You’re not going to like it.

open.substack.com

That ideology which Miller is talking about is the progressive far left wing liberals.

 

[BCP1928]

That ideology which Miller is talking about is the progressive far left wing liberals.

Who pretty much have the same opinion about the ideology of far-right religious conservatives.

 

[Servus]

Stephen Miller...whispering his sweet nothings into Trump's ear:

Last Thursday morning, less than 24 hours after the shooting, Miller tweeted out a thesis statement. “There is an ideology that has steadily been growing in this country,” he wrote, “which hates everything that is good, righteous and beautiful and celebrates everything that is warped, twisted and depraved.” This ideology has “one unifying thread,” he added: “the insatiable thirst for destruction.”

“It is an ideology that leads, always, inevitably and willfully, to violence,” Miller went on. “The fate of millions depends on the defeat of this wicked ideology.”

It’s Stephen Miller’s Show Now

The most powerful guy in Trump’s ear has a plan for how to respond to the death of Charlie Kirk. You’re not going to like it.

open.substack.com

A bit on the melodramatic side, but as can been seen (if one looks) it's the ideology that needs to be stamped out, not its victims who got sucked into it.

 

[Hans Blaster]

That ideology which Miller is talking about is the progressive far left wing liberals.

You've smashed three ideological groups into one descriptive phrase: progressives, liberals, and the far left (or "leftists"). So which group is it that Miller is talking about and where can we see him qualify his categories (if, for example, he uses different definitions than the various left-of-center groups do)?

 

[BCP1928]

A bit on the melodramatic side, but as can been seen (if one looks) it's the ideology that needs to be stamped out, not its victims who got sucked into it.

Why should it be that ideology which is "stamped out" rather than, say, yours?

 

[iluvatar5150]

Well I choose to conjecture that he was speaking figuratively. And you're free to conjure up the absolute worse scenario you can imagine.

Am I not being clear?

I'm not talking on what Trump meant. I'm talking about what his fans will infer, which may not be the same thing.

 

[Servus]

Why should it be that ideology which is "stamped out" rather than, say, yours?

Because Miller wanting to stamp out the ideology he follows makes no sense.

 

[Servus]

Am I not being clear?

I'm not talking on what Trump meant. I'm talking about what his fans will infer, which may not be the same thing.

A "what if" scenario. The left egging them on so much might not have been such a good idea.

 

[BCP1928]

Because Miller wanting to stamp out the ideology he follows makes no sense.

Of course. Each side wants to "stamp out" the other's ideology for pretty much the same reasons. That was my point.

 

[iluvatar5150]

A "what if" scenario. The left egging them on so much might not have been such a good idea.

The only people egging them on on Jan 6 were folks pushing the "stop the steal" con, which was ...checks notes... not the left.

 

[camille70]

None of the last 31 political attacks was by anyone from 'the Left'. Not one. We can count them.

None of the last 31 political attacks was by anyone from 'the Left'. Not one. We can count them.

The script written for Donald Trump which he read stiltedly straight after Charlie Kirk was shot declared assassinations in the USA were caused by “the radical Left”. He said: “For years, those on the radical Left have compared wonderful Americans like...

www.dailykos.com

This link above is a slightly edited version of an article published in Independent Australia. The original article is available here in full for free:

The vector of political killings in the USA is still Donald Trump

Ideologically-motivated violence in the USA is overwhelmingly inspired by President Trump.

independentaustralia.net

 

[iluvatar5150]

None of the last 31 political attacks was by anyone from 'the Left'. Not one. We can count them.

None of the last 31 political attacks was by anyone from 'the Left'. Not one. We can count them.

The script written for Donald Trump which he read stiltedly straight after Charlie Kirk was shot declared assassinations in the USA were caused by “the radical Left”. He said: “For years, those on the radical Left have compared wonderful Americans like...

www.dailykos.com

This link above is a slightly edited version of an article published in Independent Australia. The original article is available here in full for free:

The vector of political killings in the USA is still Donald Trump

Ideologically-motivated violence in the USA is overwhelmingly inspired by President Trump.

independentaustralia.net

Your Daily KOS article takes a couple liberties. For example, Robinson's affinity for Nick Fuentes isn't confirmed.

 

[camille70]

Your Daily KOS article takes a couple liberties. For example, Robinson's affinity for Nick Fuentes isn't confirmed.

Thst stood out to me also. The diary is a community diary, not dkos staff, and was quoted from the Australian article. I didn’t make a disclaimer because they said he was "reportedly" influenced and the linked article doesn't state it was confirmed, just that it's based on social media claims. I agree with you, though.

I'm not familiar with the site, but thought it held value being an international perspective. I am though familiar with most of the incidents listed, and it seemed to be an accurate listing of what I recalled from news reports at the time. There were a few that were new to me though.

 

[RileyG]

In fairness, I believe he meant to beat "them " in the next election cycle.

I’d be surprised to see what happens next.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Exactly. His fans totally didn't take the most extreme interpretation of his words and go overboard. It's only leftists who do that.

Who broke the doors and crapped in offices?

 

[iluvatar5150]

Who broke the doors and crapped in offices?

I refuse to put "/s" after my comments.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

I refuse to put "/s" after my comments.

What does “/s” mean?