Charlie Kirk shooting suspect Tyler Robinson could face firing squad

[MehGuy]

Even if the shooter turns out to be on the right, ultimately this situation is probably a larger stain in the left.

The left: See.. the guy who shot the guy we just cheered the death for turned out to be on the right. The right are the dangerous group. Pay no mind to a disturbing amount of us who took delight about his death. This attitude couldn't possibly have any impact about the possible danger of our group. The shooter turned out to be right, case closed.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

You joke, but it likely would bring some sense of closure to the situation.

The reality is, there's a lot of angry people out there about this whole fiasco, and if they don't get some sense of closure in all this, the situation's not going to get any better.

People need to touch some grass and learn a thing or two about parasocial relationships.

Killing this kid, which if they do, not my problem, I won’t shed a tear, but thinking that’s going to somehow bring down the temperature in the country strikes me as awfully naive, especially coming from a rational guy like yourself, Rob. Charlie is gone, they got his killer. Give it a week and we’ll be onto some new outrage to be mad at each other over.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

That's ignoring the aspect that the sitting president and vice president were close personal friends of the victim.

I wouldn't count on Trump weighing in - he's already over it. Someone asked him how he was holding up today, and his response was basically "I'm doing great - hey, have you heard about the new ballroom I'm building?"

 

[MehGuy]

On the other hand, if it can be shown that he is a Leftist, that would almost automatically ensure that he is insane.

 

[rebornfree]

I wouldn't count on Trump weighing in - he's already over it. Someone asked him how he was holding up today, and his response was basically "I'm doing great - hey, have you heard about the new ballroom I'm building?"

I hope he doesn't weigh in. Let him concentrate on his ballroom. Then the court can decide on the facts of the case, not on the victim being the President's friend.

 

[Chesterton]

HOW DARE YOU!

Listen. I am a licensed psychiatrist and as such, I can...oh wait, I just remembered I'm an unlicensed psychiatrist, BUT I have the internet, and I can assure you that persons with pink and green hair dancing around and singing about how happy they are that an inoffensive young father of two was murdered are insane.

 

[BPPLEE]

I think if the killer is executed, it will be so far down the road that discussing the impact, relief, or retaliation it will cause within society is pointless. We have no idea what society will look like and I very strongly suspect the afterglow of outrage that we have now will not be nearly as bright when and if the time for an execution comes.

I used to strongly support the death penalty but two people that I arrested have been put to death, both over 20 years after they committed their crimes and other than the families of the victims I don’t think very many people noticed or cared. I really don’t think it accomplished much in the way of deterring crime.

 

[rjs330]

Well, nsybe he will. I just desire justice be done properly. I honestly don't care if he gets the death penalty or spends the rest of his life behind bars. If he did it and is found guilty then let be what be.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

Executing him, especially doing so in an unusually fast time frame risks making a martyr out of him. While it actually might ease some tensions for some, it could very well rile up tensions for others.

I think this situation is larger than the shooter anyways. Many on the right are shocked (some on the left admitting similar sentiments themselves) just how many people on the left celebrated or were at least gleeful about Charlie Kirk's assassination. At this point the shooter is almost irrelevant himself.

I guess we are not talking about actual politicians now? Haven't they pretty much condemned political violence?

 

[BPPLEE]

HOW DARE YOU!

Listen. I am a licensed psychiatrist and as such, I can...oh wait, I just remembered I'm an unlicensed psychiatrist, BUT I have the internet, and I can assure you that persons with pink and green hair dancing around and singing about how happy they are that an inoffensive young father of two was murdered are insane.

How about someone raised in a conservative family who is a leftist?

 

[MehGuy]

I guess we are not talking about actual politicians now? Haven't they pretty much condemned political violence?

I think the general people on the left's thoughts actually carry more weight than what their scripted politicians have to say about this assassination. Especially in this day and age of social media.

 

[BPPLEE]

I don't think giving the angry mob what it wants sets a good precedent. Especially these days when people are quickly tried and found guilty in the court of public opinion. Rather than quench their thirst for justice, it could give them a taste for blood. May as well find a few witches to burn while we're at it.

Besides, based on what I've seen, both the right and the left condemn Charlie Kirk's assassination. Barring a few exceptions, of course. The violence was politically inspired but the reaction has been mostly bipartisan. I don't know how much this will change speaking engagements beyond perhaps increasing security and making people on all sides more hesitant to speak publicly.

This will probably discourage outdoor speaking events. One guy came close to killing the president and another random guy succeeded in killing Kirk at outdoor events. I wouldn’t be surprised to see speaking events moving indoors.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I hope he doesn't weigh in. Let him concentrate on his ballroom. Then the court can decide on the facts of the case, not on the victim being the President's friend.

We used to have presidents who stayed out of things like this. In fact, I remember when a young man, Trayvon Martin was killed and President Obama weighed in on the case it cause quite a stink on the right. People accused him of being divisive and fanning the flames of racism in the country.

 

[7thKeeper]

I used to strongly support the death penalty but two people that I arrested have been put to death, both over 20 years after they committed their crimes and other than the families of the victims I don’t think very many people noticed or cared. I really don’t think it accomplished much in the way of deterring crime.

I think that's been established a long time ago that the death penalty does little to absolutely nothing deter crime.

 

[7thKeeper]

I think the general people on the left's thoughts actually carry more weight than what their scripted politicians have to say about this assassination. Especially in this day and age of social media.

Hardly. The people heard on social media are always the loud minority, the vast majority don't post at all. It's pretty useless to draw conclusions from that.

 

[Servus]

This will surely bring peace and closure to the Kirk family. Maybe they can televise it like Charlie wanted. Executing this 22 year old in an equally violent fashion may even bring our troubled country together. The solution of course is more violence.

In the time it would take place after all the appeals he'd probably be 42 by then.

 

[BPPLEE]

I think that's been established a long time ago that the death penalty does little to absolutely nothing deter crime.

Research suggests that the likelihood of being caught and punished is a stronger deterrent than the severity of the punishment itself.

 

[Aldebaran]

Research suggests that the likelihood of being caught and punished is a stronger deterrent than the severity of the punishment itself.

Considering how this guy, and the Healthcare CEO killer (Luigi) and others are deciding to remain alive after they do their assassinating, I'm starting to wonder if they value the admiration they get from their fans more than they fear any punishment they'll receive.

 

[rebornfree]

We used to have presidents who stayed out of things like this. In fact, I remember when a young man, Trayvon Martin was killed and President Obama weighed in on the case it cause quite a stink on the right. People accused him of being divisive and fanning the flames of racism in the country.

I didn't know about that. I'm in the UK, so am viewing things from a distance. However there seems to be so much hate atm. Did this happen under Reagan or either of the Bush Presidents? I think not, but maybe we didn't hear about it this side of the pond.

It's because of all the rhetoric and diviseness, as well as Trump being a controversial President, that I don't think the murder was purely the shooter's fault. It's true of other offenses in other countries too, including my own. We have knife crime, but we have too much violence on tv imo. The culprits are responsible for their crimes, but so is society. If Trump stays out of it and the courts judge by the facts of the crime and not the popularity of the victim then maybe justice will be done. I hope they will apply mercy, in view of the shooter's age and the toxicity of the political environment, and not execute him.

 

[Servus]

Yes, insanity is a defense here, but we have him on video fleeing the scene of the crime, which is an indication that he was sane enough to know that he did something wrong and illegal, and didn't want to get caught. Fleeing the scene is a huge barrier to presenting an insanity defense.

On the other hand, if it can be shown that he is a Leftist, that would almost automatically ensure that he is insane.

Yeah, if he had walked up to Kirk and shot him that would be one thing. But he carried out a carefully orchestrated assassination. Premeditated calculated cold blooded first degree murder.