I hold a view similar to the Open View of God.

[Colo Millz]

How so. What is God trying to say? BTW I don't agree with the statment. It is plain clear scripture.

Gen 6:5-7 Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. So the LORD said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them."

Patristic or medieval interpreters would say these texts are "condescensio"—God “condescends” to speak in human images, so we can understand.

Aquinas would say the predication is analogical: “regret” in God does not mean psychological reversal, but the eternal will’s consistent opposition to sin, revealed in time.

It’s not about God changing—it’s about us seeing the depth of divine displeasure.

When Scripture says God “regrets,” it doesn’t mean He experiences emotional turmoil or error like a human, but it does mean something real — that God, in His perfect and unchanging nature, utterly rejects evil, and Scripture borrows the strongest human image of rejection (“regret”) to communicate this truth to us.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

But the Bible is quite clear, there were things even God did not know about human choices.

Consider divine pedagogy, God's method of patiently teaching humanity. He reveals His way on the first pages of Genesis with Adam and Eve, like parents with a child.

Genesis 3:8
"And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. "But the Lord God called to the man, 'Where are you?'"And he said, 'I heard the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked, and I hid myself.'"

This interaction shapes our understanding of God's Character for the rest of scripture.

Did God really not know where Adam and Eve were hiding?

Blessings

 

[BeyondET]

Tell me what it is supposed to mean?

Good question, Surely God knew their location.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

2Ti_3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,

This verse shows the nature of God. You should not try to "fit" it into your view of God. Change your view of God. We were made in God's image, with the ability to communicate with God. God's communication is not confusing, it is clear language.

Gen 6:5-7 Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. So the LORD said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them."

This vesre 100% makes sense, and it backs the idea that man has free will.

 

[Dan Perez]

Then you are saying that God is not omniscient which also means he is not omnipotent. That is not God. Also, your thinking demonstrates the notion that God is subject to time, and whatever other things you consider 'reality'. In your thinking, God is not the 'inventor' of time and reality.

All things begin with God. Apart from him, there was nothing—no principles, no fact, no reality— until he created. All other things depend on and logically descend from his creating.

Can you prove that man has freewill? It seems to be one of the foundations of your theory.

And. in. Rev 19:6 you will find the word OMNIPOTENT. // PANTOKRATOS , in Rev 19:6. .

dan p

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Good question, Surely God knew their location.

I know what you were suggesting about that scripture I meant if the following is not to be taken literally. How should it be interpreted?

Gen 6:5-7 Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. So the LORD said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them."

 

[Mark Quayle]

The view of God should be based on scripture, not words man has invented to try to describe God. Scripture shows that God granted man free choice, and man chose evil not good.

Gen 6:5-7 Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. So the LORD said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them."

To say God can't give free will and still be all powerful, is actually limiting God.

To say God can't give free will is a bogus statement. It is not a matter of whether he can or not; it is a matter of whether the statement makes sense. It does not. "Free will", of the sort that means "a will independent of causation", is a bogus notion. There is no such thing. So the consideration of whether God can or cannot make it is like considering whether God can make a rock too big for him to pick up. It is silly. Self-contradictory notions, no matter what you think to do with them, are not real.

But if you mean something else by free will, such as only, "actual, real choice", then I don't say God can't give us that, because it is more than obvious he has, and that he has even told us to choose.

So just what are you saying?

Mat 23:37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!

God has always been willing to save, but people have often resisted. You might fight the meaning of that verse, but my rendering is what the Early Church held to, see Irenaeus [A.D. 120-202]:


1. This expression [of our Lord], “How often would I have gathered thy children together, and thou wouldest not,” (Mat 23:37) set forth the ancient law of human liberty, because God made man a free [agent] from the beginning, possessing his own power, even as he does his own soul, to obey the behests (ad utendum sententia) of God voluntarily, and not by compulsion of God. For there is no coercion with God, but a good will [towards us] is present with Him continually. And therefore does He give good counsel to all. And in man, as well as in angels, He has placed the power of choice (for angels are rational beings), so that those who had yielded obedience might justly possess what is good, given indeed by God, but preserved by themselves. On the other hand, they who have not obeyed shall, with justice, be not found in possession of the good, and shall receive condign punishment: for God did kindly bestow on them what was good; but they themselves did not diligently keep it, nor deem it something precious, but poured contempt upon His super-eminent goodness. (Irenaeus [A.D. 120-202] Against Heresies - Book 4 Ch 37)

The whole of scripture makes people responsible for their actions; we are judged by our deeds.

But some specific verses on free will see:

Job 36:10-12 He also opens their ear to instruction, And commands that they turn from iniquity. If they obey and serve Him, They shall spend their days in prosperity, And their years in pleasures. But if they do not obey, They shall perish by the sword, And they shall die without knowledge.

The one person can make two choices, one resulting in life, one in death.

Even Cain was offered life if "He did well":

Gen 4:7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it."

Joh 14:22-24 Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, "Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world?" Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.

The above scripture about receiving the Holy Spirit, shows an order of salvation, that includes "our actions". 1) the word comes, 2) if we obey 3) then the Father will love us, and manifest himself to us.

Can you show how any of that proves free will? So far, all I see is assertions. Nobody (well, not I, at least) claim that we don't choose.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Can you show how any of that proves free will? So far, all I see is assertions. Nobody (well, not I, at least) claim that we don't choose.

But if I assume rightly, you are a Calvinist. You believe that man can not choose to follow God (in a saving sense), that it must be given by God.

That is exactly why I gave the scriptures I did. For they show that "Salvation" is a choice.

Firstly, Cain who is known as a son of the devil, due to his actions, was told by God, "If he did well he could be accepted":

Gen 4:7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it."​

The following scripture in Job shows that one man can go one of two ways based upon their decision to obey or disobey.

Job 36:10-12 He also opens their ear to instruction, And commands that they turn from iniquity. If they obey and serve Him, They shall spend their days in prosperity, And their years in pleasures. But if they do not obey, They shall perish by the sword, And they shall die without knowledge.​

And The verses about the Holy Spirit show that man does not receive the Father's Love until they obey/receive God's word.

Joh 14:22-24 Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, "Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world?" Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.​

 

[BelieveItOarKnot]

I have a view similar to the Open View of God. What is this view, it is that God although a planner, does not know every choice that man will make. It is supported by verses like:

Such views MUST remove God from the equations of mankind, and are therefore Godless claims.

The moment you conceed that God is active in this world and in His creation, then such claims go away.

Does God know everything? Yup. Every thought, word and deed.

Does God know what's going to happen? Yup, right down to the finest details.

God Knows Everything. Nothing is hidden from Him, past, present or future

 

[Mark Quayle]

But if I assume rightly, you are a Calvinist.

I am Calvinistic, yes, but I don't claim to be a Calvinist, nor even Reformed, for that matter.

You believe that man can not choose to follow God (in a saving sense), that it must be given by God.

Fallen man, yes, and Salvation itself (I don't mean the subsequent virtues and growth in Christ) is entirely by Grace. Man contributes nothing to that change of heart. He only, as I put it, "does so because it is so" in him, accomplished entirely by the Spirit of God that has taken up residence in him. Yes, I am a monergist. Salvation is entirely by grace. Read Eph 2:8,9 again. Not by man's contribution.

That is exactly why I gave the scriptures I did. For they show that "Salvation" is a choice.

Well, finally an explanation. Apparently you think it is obvious. But in none of them is there any declaration as to how any one fallen man is able to choose, apart from the work of God in him. While there are multiple passages of Scripture demonstrating that he is never willing, (even in spite of him thinking he is finally yielding his fickle heart to God), and at constant enmity against God, and unable to submit to God's law, and unable to please God. You seem to think that it is by the integrity of man's decisions that God can take up residence in him.

Firstly, Cain who is known as a son of the devil, due to his actions, was told by God, "If he did well he could be accepted":

Gen 4:7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it."​

You said this before. (Leaving aside for the moment that we don't know that to be referring to salvation) where is the ability to do well? No doubt Cain thought he could, but if he is rotten at the core, all his deeds are rotten at the core. The fact that fallen man is commanded to obey, believe, repent, love God etc, that does not mean that he is actually able to do so. It may well be that he is able to do so to the best of his ability, but that doesn't mean that he is able, for example, to love God; whether or not he has fond feelings for his concept of God is irrelevant as to how God sees things. The command does not imply the ability to obey. Should, and could, are two different things. He will not, and he cannot.

The following scripture in Job shows that one man can go one of two ways based upon their decision to obey or disobey.

Job 36:10-12 He also opens their ear to instruction, And commands that they turn from iniquity. If they obey and serve Him, They shall spend their days in prosperity, And their years in pleasures. But if they do not obey, They shall perish by the sword, And they shall die without knowledge.​

Same as before. Where is that ability to repent? Should repent, yes. Can, and is willing? Uh, no.

And The verses about the Holy Spirit show that man does not receive the Father's Love until they obey/receive God's word.

Joh 14:22-24 Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, "Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world?" Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.​

Bad sequence of logic. It does not say that the Father does not love him until he loves Christ. I don't know if you are familiar with the Greek manner of thinking, and (apparently) much of that old world, but in some sense it is much more logical than we are, who necessarily equate (in our minds (except when we don't—not even realizing that we don't, sometimes)) tense of words with time passage (sequence of events) and sequence of events with sequence of causation. While indeed salvation is through faith, by Christ's sacrifice 2000 years ago, from God's POV the fact of our salvation and even our glorification was spoken into fact when he created the universe. The passage does not say that the Father will love him and that they will come and dwell in him BECAUSE he loves Christ and keeps his words, but that they will do so. The whole verse is by way of defining in what way God makes himself known, to whom he does so, and who the Messenger is of the Father's words. It is not about sequence of events, but identification (via evidences) of to whom God makes himself known.

And, again here, you show no indication of how a person is even able to love God, who is at the core rotten and at enmity with God. Take all the council of God into account. Not just one passage here and another there. Read Ephesians 8, for starters: At enmity, will not, cannot, mind of the flesh and not of the Spirit.

And, as in our conversations past, I not only admit, but insist, that we do indeed choose, but only because we are reborn by the Spirit of God, the only source of valid faith.

 

[Strong in Him]

I have a view similar to the Open View of God. What is this view, it is that God although a planner, does not know every choice that man will make.

Yes, he does.
If he didn't, he wouldn't have all power and be all knowing - and he wouldn't be God.

Gen 6:5-7 Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.

Of course he was grieved.
He made mankind and said that his creation was very good, Genesis 1:31. Yet people turned against him and sinned.
He knew that he had given them a choice and he knew that they would sin - it didn't stop him from feeling sad when they did.

Just as if you had a child who asked for your advice on something, but ignored it, did their own thing and you just knew they would regret it/they had made a bad choice.
Any couple would know that if they have a child, at some point that child will disobey them or go against their wishes. I have never known anyone not want a baby because one day it might disobey their wishes.

 

[Strong in Him]

2Ti_3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,

This verse shows the nature of God. You should not try to "fit" it into your view of God. Change your view of God. We were made in God's image, with the ability to communicate with God. God's communication is not confusing, it is clear language.

Gen 6:5-7 Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. So the LORD said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them."

This vesre 100% makes sense, and it backs the idea that man has free will.

Why are you forming a whole view of God from ONE verse?

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Why are you forming a whole view of God from ONE verse?

Because it "clearly" shows what God was thinking. There are no verses in the Bible that conclusively say that God has "perfect" foreknowledge. Even verses like:

Act 15:18 "Known to God from eternity are all His works.​

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things that are not yet done, Saying, 'My counsel shall stand, And I will do all My pleasure,'​

Do not clearly say God has always had perfect foreknowledge. They show God has certainly planned many things. Acts 15:18 is referring to the saving work of Christ being foreordained. Isaiah 46:10 speaks of God planning the judgment on the nations for their sins.

Jer 18:9-11 And the instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it, if it does evil in My sight so that it does not obey My voice, then I will relent concerning the good with which I said I would benefit it. "Now therefore, speak to the men of Judah and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, 'Thus says the LORD: "Behold, I am fashioning a disaster and devising a plan against you. Return now every one from his evil way, and make your ways and your doings good." ' "​

God often devises plans based upon the actions of a nation or people. As we see in the above scripture, God was "fashioning a disaster, devising a plan". He did not say "I have always planned this to happen, I knew you would be evil", no, He was forming a plan based upon people's actions.

 

[Strong in Him]

Because it "clearly" shows what God was thinking.

No, it doesn't.
It's wrong to form a doctrine from one verse.

There are no verses in the Bible that conclusively say that God has "perfect" foreknowledge.

You need to look at Scripture as a whole.
i) God is eternal. Scripture doesn't say that God was created or there was a point where he came into being. He was there before the beginning of everything and created all things.
ii) God is God. There is no other god, no one greater than he. His ways are higher than our ways, etc.
iii) He knew that Adam and Eve would sin; he provided a Saviour before we knew that we needed one, 1 Peter 1:19-2, Genesis 3:15. The latter verse was a Messianic prophecy - even Jews accept that this verse talks about a future Messiah.
iv) He told Joseph that the Israelites would be led out of Egypt more than 400 years before it happened, Genesis 50:24-25.
v) There are many prophecies in the OT which were fulfilled by Jesus. He told the prophets that Jesus would be born in Bethlehem, that they would have to go to Egypt to escape Herod, that Jesus would have a healing ministry, that he would be betrayed by a friend, that he would suffer for the sins of many, that he would rise again, and much more. There are Jews who have accepted Jesus as their Messiah because of the number of prophecies that he fulfilled. On the road to Emmaus Jesus told the two travellers what Moses, the prophets and the Scriptures prophesied about him.
vi) If God doesn't know all things; if he can be taken by surprise, caught out or things happen without him knowing about them - we're all in trouble.

God often devises plans based upon the actions of a nation or people.

But he still knew in advance what those actions would be.
He told Adam not to eat from a certain tree. But when Adam did, God didn't say, "oh, that's ruined all my plans; I'd better think of something else quickly." As I said, Scripture says that he provided a Saviour before we knew that we needed one.
He knew that Peter would deny Jesus. Even though Peter had said, "no, I'd rather die than deny you", he said, "when you turn back, strengthen your brothers", Luke 22:32.

Quite often the prophets told people, "if you don't repent you will be punished." If people did repent - like Nineveh - they weren't punished. If they didn't, they were. In those cases, peoples' actions could affect the outcome and their future.
But God knew beforehand what they would do. If not, he wasn't God.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

No, it doesn't.
It's wrong to form a doctrine from one verse.

You need to look at Scripture as a whole.
i) God is eternal. Scripture doesn't say that God was created or there was a point where he came into being. He was there before the beginning of everything and created all things.
ii) God is God. There is no other god, no one greater than he. His ways are higher than our ways, etc.
iii) He knew that Adam and Eve would sin; he provided a Saviour before we knew that we needed one, 1 Peter 1:19-2, Genesis 3:15. The latter verse was a Messianic prophecy - even Jews accept that this verse talks about a future Messiah.

It is not hard for God to know man "may" sin. He need not know they would. He only had to have provision for the fact that they might.

iv) He told Joseph that the Israelites would be led out of Egypt more than 400 years before it happened, Genesis 50:24-25.
v) There are many prophecies in the OT which were fulfilled by Jesus. He told the prophets that Jesus would be born in Bethlehem, that they would have to go to Egypt to escape Herod, that Jesus would have a healing ministry, that he would be betrayed by a friend, that he would suffer for the sins of many, that he would rise again, and much more. There are Jews who have accepted Jesus as their Messiah because of the number of prophecies that he fulfilled. On the road to Emmaus Jesus told the two travellers what Moses, the prophets and the Scriptures prophesied about him.

All of these things can be attributed to God's planning, and in the case of Peter, knowing Peter's heart, and the test that was coming to him; they need not rely upon "perfect foreknowledge".

vi) If God doesn't know all things; if he can be taken by surprise, caught out or things happen without him knowing about them - we're all in trouble.

Not at all God can put constraints on what creation, can, and can not do. The world is not going to crumble if God has given genuine free choices to mankind.

Quite often the prophets told people, "if you don't repent you will be punished." If people did repent - like Nineveh - they weren't punished. If they didn't, they were. In those cases, peoples' actions could affect the outcome and their future.
But God knew beforehand what they would do. If not, he wasn't God.

If God is as powerful and creative as we imagine HIm to be, would He not rather experience the highs and lows of interacting with His creation, rather than imposing a linear will upon them.

Regardlessof all of that scientifically, it is possible that one can move through time in both forward and backwards directions (according to chatgpt). If this is the case; it is certainly possible for God to traverse time. Some things He may "know" due to an ability He has to manipulate time. If He has foreknowledge, it is not due to a lack of us being truely free agents.

One of Justin Martyr's students summed it up this way:

The Logos, too, before the creation of men, was the Framer of angels. And each of these two orders of creatures was made free to act as it pleased, not having the nature of good, which again is with God alone, but is brought to perfection in men through their freedom of choice, in order that the bad man may be justly punished, having become depraved through his own fault, but the just man be deservedly praised for his virtuous deeds, since in the exercise of his free choice he refrained from transgressing the will of God. Such is the constitution of things in reference to angels and men. And the power of the Logos, having in itself a faculty to foresee future events, not as fated, but as taking place by the choice of free agents, foretold from time to time the issues of things to come; (Tatian 110-172 AD, Address to the Greeks Chapter 7)

 

[Strong in Him]

It is not hard for God to know man "may" sin. He need not know they would.

But he does, and did.
He is God.

All of these things can be attributed to God's planning, and in the case of Peter, knowing Peter's heart, and the test that was coming to him; they need not rely upon "perfect foreknowledge".

But God has perfect foreknowledge.
He is outside time and sees all things. He is the Alpha and the Omega.

Not at all God can put constraints on what creation, can, and can not do. The world is not going to crumble if God has given genuine free choices to mankind.

He has given us genuine free choices.
He didn't make Adam eat the fruit.
He hasn't dictated every moment of our lives. The Bible doesn't tell us where we should live, what jobs we should have, where we should go to church, whether we should get married and have children, and so on. God doesn't plan those things; he lets us choose.

If God is as powerful and creative as we imagine HIm to be, would He not rather experience the highs and lows of interacting with His creation,

Have you read the Bible recently?
God is shown to be angry at sin, yet loving, patient and so on. He is described as rejoicing over us with singing as well as being angry.
Jesus was, and is, God. So in Jesus, God experienced all the highs and lows of interacting with his creation - frustration, compassion, anger, love, fatigue, pain, suffering and so on.

rather than imposing a linear will upon them.

God doesn't impose anything upon us.
If he did, he would have created Adam and Eve so that it was impossible for them to disobey him. And we would all be like robots - saying "I love you" because it was impossible for us to say anything else.
You only need to look around you to see that people have chosen to live their lives without God.

Regardlessof all of that scientifically, it is possible that one can move through time in both forward and backwards directions (according to chatgpt).

Why are you looking at chatgpt rather than Scripture?

 

[FutureAndAHope]

He has given us genuine free choices.
He didn't make Adam eat the fruit.
He hasn't dictated every moment of our lives. The Bible doesn't tell us where we should live, what jobs we should have, where we should go to church, whether we should get married and have children, and so on. God doesn't plan those things; he lets us choose.

This is the point I am making: there are things that God has placed in our hands. He can not know what our choice will be until we make it. This is why God has emotions; He reacts to our choice.

Because of our free choices, God can say:

Gen 6:5-7 Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. So the LORD said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them."

Why are you looking at chatgpt rather than Scripture?

Because ChatGPT can explain the science of time. Even you said:

He is outside time and sees all things. He is the Alpha and the Omega.

What I am saying is similar to your view that He is outside of time. But I see it this way:

Time is a reality. God must experience time to have a genuine relationship with man. But being outside of time, able to move forward and backward in time. Thus knowing what will happen. Scientifically creating time in such a way.

The following is just a thought: It is interesting that the scripture states that even the son does not know the hour of His own return. Jesus, as the human-like hand of God, may wish to interact with man "in time", thus not be exposed to the same foreknowledge as the Father, so He can experience the emotion of His bride, the church. The Father's foreknowledge may be perfect. He can share with the Son, what He wills.

 

[Strong in Him]

This is the point I am making: there are things that God has placed in our hands. He can not know what our choice will be until we make it.

He can and he does.

I'm sorry your view of God is so small.

This is why God has emotions; He reacts to our choice.

He said that his creation was very good even before he had commanded Adam not to eat the fruit. I.O.W he was very pleased with us before we had even done anything. Paul says that God chose us, in him (Jesus) before the creation of the world. He knew and loved us before he made us.
God is not a reflex or something that just reacts to stimuli.

Because ChatGPT can explain the science of time. Even you said:

ChatGPT is a man made thing and can "know" only what it has been programmed to "know".
That has nothing to do with God being the Alpha and Omega - One who knows, and sees, the beginning and the end.

What I am saying is similar to your view that He is outside of time.

As he is outside time and knows the beginning and the end, it shouldn't be too hard to realise that he knows all things. Therefore he has perfect foreknowledge.

Time is a reality. God must experience time to have a genuine relationship with man.

In Jesus, God came into our world, born as one of us.

But being outside of time, able to move forward and backward in time.

Where do you get the idea that God "moves backwards in time"?

Thus knowing what will happen.

So he does have perfect foreknowledge, then.

The following is just a thought: It is interesting that the scripture states that even the son does not know the hour of His own return.

He didn't know the hour when he was speaking to his disciples.
Paul says that when Jesus was born he "emptied himself". He did not hold onto all his divine power; he became one of us. Jesus was always God but was also 100% human.

Jesus, as the human-like hand of God, may wish to interact with man "in time", thus not be exposed to the same foreknowledge as the Father,

No, Jesus is, and was, the eternal Word; who was God and was with God in the beginning, John 1:1-3, John 17:5. All things were created through Jesus.
There are instances in the OT where people met an "angel of the Lord" and commentators believe that that was a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus. Eg when 3 men were thrown into a fiery pit, the next day the king saw 4 people and the 4th one "looked like a god."

Jesus is not "the human hand of God"; he always was, and is, God.
God knew us completely because he made us, Psalm 139. But in Jesus, God experienced time, suffering, pain, anxiety and humanity for himself.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Where do you get the idea that God "moves backwards in time"?

From the theory of time. Theoretically, it should be possible to move through time in both directions. God could communicate backwards, to the beginning what He knows of time. To Him time is completed, to us we are experiencing His interaction with time.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Paul says that God chose us, in him (Jesus) before the creation of the world. He knew and loved us before he made us.

I see this as meaning, like the Gentiles are now God's chosen people, that God had always planned this to occur. We were a chosen people, in Him, in Christ.