Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2)

[Oompa Loompa]

No, probably because they are useless.

There is nothing TDS about committing murder.

What the Navy did made them no more 'murders than when a soldier killed an isis terrorist in Northern Iraq.

 

[Yarddog]

What the Navy did mand them no more 'murders than when a soldier killed an isis terrorist in Northern Iraq.

That's not true but murder can occur during war. Even if the boat was full of illegal drugs, that would not mandate a death sentence under US law. Killing a fleeing suspected criminal is not legal unless the Naval personnel were in grave danger.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

That's not true but murder can occur during war. Even if the boat was full of illegal drugs, that would not mandate a death sentence under US law. Killing a fleeing suspected criminal is not legal unless the Naval personnel were in grave danger.

The please explain the difference as to why narco-terrorists south of the border have more rights than that Islamic terrorists in Syria?

 

[Yarddog]

The please explain the difference as to why narco-terrorists south of the border have more rights than that Islamic terrorists in Syria?

The ISIS conflict was part of the war on terror. We do not have a war against Venezuela or drugs. Plus, we don't have knowledge that the boat had any drugs on it.
Trump saying it, does not make it true.

 

[Colo Millz]

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There is a "war on drugs".

Something I don't think has been debated yet on this thread is whether or not there should be such a war in the first place.

 

[Yarddog]

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There is a "war on drugs".

Something I don't think has been debated yet on this thread is whether or not there should be such a war in the first place.

The war on drugs is not a military war.

 

[RDKirk]

The ISIS conflict was part of the war on terror. We do not have a war against Venezuela or drugs. Plus, we don't have knowledge that the boat had any drugs on it.
Trump saying it, does not make it true.

But what ever was the "war on terror?"

Congress never declared such a thing.

President Bush announced he was commencing a war on terror and Congress went along with it.

To be sure, Bush and the rest of the country was on the rebound from 9/11, but that was just the emotional side of the matter. On the jurisdictional side, there was no difference then from what Trump is doing now. But Trump doesn't need to rebound from something like 9/11 because he's got Congress already in his pocket.

 

[Pommer]

The please explain the difference as to why narco-terrorists south of the border have more rights than that Islamic terrorists in Syria?

Drug dealers are looking to sell their wares…they’re business-folk, with an illegal product (to be sure), but they don’t want their customers to die…while it’s horrible that they’re in this “business” it doesn’t make them “terrorists“.

Terrorists have a goal that they want to achieve by the use of their terrorism; the only goal of drug dealers is to get dollars into their own pockets.

(I know that you’re not likely to change your opinion about them being “terrorists”; that’s fine, (good even), but we all know it’s just rhetorical cover for being ruthless.)

 

[Yarddog]

But what ever was the "war on terror?"

Congress never declared such a thing.

Not a "war on terror" but Bush used that term to get Congressional approval for the AUMF.

President Bush announced he was commencing a war on terror and Congress went along with it.

To be sure, Bush and the rest of the country was on the rebound from 9/11, but that was just the emotional side of the matter. On the jurisdictional side, there was no difference then from what Trump is doing now. But Trump doesn't need to rebound from something like 9/11 because he's got Congress already in his pocket.

I don't think I'd say that. The AUMF has been misused but Venezuela had nothing to do with terrorism involving the 9/11 attacks.
Intercepting drugs in the Gulf of Mexico or the Caribbean has usually been the job of the Coast Guard who are quite good at seizing drug boats.

 

[rjs330]

And, because they're all dead and the boat is destroyed, we have no way to verify that.

And you have no reason to need to. Nor a right to know what they knew. Its not up to you to verify anything.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Intercepting drugs in the Gulf of Mexico or the Caribbean has usually been the job of the Coast Guard who are quite good at seizing drug boats.

The fact that the Coast Guard seized drug boats, captured the crew alive, and took possession of the drugs so that legal proceedings could be taken actually proves that they aren't very good at it.

 

[Yarddog]

The fact that the Coast Guard seized drug boats, captured the crew alive, and took possession of the drugs so that legal proceedings could be taken actually proves that they aren't very good at it.

It proves that launching missiles without attempting to stop the boats is murder.

 

[Landon Caeli]

It proves that launching missiles without attempting to stop the boats is murder.

In the first degree?

 

[Yarddog]

In the first degree?

Intentional

 

[Desk trauma]

Intentional

Intent to kill is a component of all degrees of murder, it’s what distinguishes it from lesser homicide charges.

 

[Landon Caeli]

So Donald Trump needs to stand trial for premeditated murder..?

 

[Yarddog]

So Donald Trump needs to stand trial for premeditated murder..?

That can't happen.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Let's face it, we have a wealthy white president who *KILLED* 11 minorities..!! Something must be done!

 

[RDKirk]

Not a "war on terror" but Bush used that term to get Congressional approval for the AUMF.

I don't think I'd say that. The AUMF has been misused but Venezuela had nothing to do with terrorism involving the 9/11 attacks.
Intercepting drugs in the Gulf of Mexico or the Caribbean has usually been the job of the Coast Guard who are quite good at seizing drug boats.

You miss the point.

It doesn't matter what Trump calls it.

Trump can call it what he wants, or call it nothing at all, because Trump can do what he wants.

 

[RDKirk]

It proves that launching missiles without attempting to stop the boats is murder.

What difference does it make?

Let's call it murder, then.

Who is going to arrest Trump?