Illegal Immigration

[HARK!]

We've discussed them so many times

No we haven't.

did you forget?

You are mistaken again.

Stone, Manafort, Flynn, Bannon, etc. I think my favorite was when Bannon had a "build the wall" fundraiser, and then stole the money. Similar to the Trump Foundation, as we know.

I haven't heard of any of these guys. Are any of them currently on this Administration; and if so, what does that have to do with the topic of this thread?

 

[HARK!]

He was summoned for a citizenship interview, but was instead taken into custody. The fact that you find his opinions distasteful isn't relevant.

I find this to be relevant:

“The gun shop owner told Windsor, Vermont, police officers that Mr. Mahdawi had visited his store twice, expressing an interest in learning more about firearms and buying a sniper rifle and an automatic weapon and that he ‘had considerable firearm experience and used to build modified 9mm submachine guns to kill Jews while he was in Palestine’,” the papers charge.

The government also pointed to a 2019 incident in which Mahdawi was stopped at the US border and “found to be carrying drugs,” the court filing charges.

Freed Columbia University student Mohsen Mahdawi accused of telling gun shop owner that he used to ‘kill Jews’ in Palestine: court docs

Freed Palestinian Columbia University student Mohsen Mahdawi was once accused of telling a Vermont gun store owner that he used to “kill Jews while he was in Palestine,” court documents alleg…

nypost.com

 

[HARK!]

Trump will fire anyone who reports the truth.

No, that's CNN.

 

[HARK!]

Have we abandoned the principle of "innocent until proven guilty"? Being charged with a crime is not the same as being convicted of a crime.

Guests don't have the same rights as a citizen, especially criminal guests.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Guests don't have the same rights as a citizen, especially criminal guests.

How do you know someone is a criminal without a trial?

 

[HARK!]

How do you know someone is a criminal without a trial?

How do they stand trial without an arrest?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

How do they stand trial without an arrest?

That doesn't answer my question.

 

[HARK!]

That doesn't answer my question.

I'll break it down in bite sized steps.

First there is evidence of a crime.

Then there is an arrest.

Then comes the trial.

 

[JosephZ]

According to ICE:



According to your .org that skews the facts:

According to information that can be found on the ICE website, it confirms what TRAC reported. 70.4% of detainees have no criminal convictions. If you include immigrants with pending charges, 54.6% currently detained have criminal charges pending or have been convicted of a crime.

 

[NxNW]

No it's not. I personally know a victim at the local level.

A victim of what?

Are you trolling me?

No, I'm dead serious. The Clinton hit list is totally fake; manufactured for propaganda purposes by the GOP.

 

[NxNW]

I haven't heard of any of these guys.

I guess you're the one doing the trolling now.

Are any of them currently on this Administration;

No, the last one.

and if so, what does that have to do with the topic of this thread?

They were answers to your question.

 

[NxNW]

Guests don't have the same rights as a citizen, especially criminal guests.

Constitutional rights of due process apply to everyone.

 

[HARK!]

According to information that can be found on the ICE website, it confirms what TRAC reported. 70.4% of detainees have no criminal convictions. If you include immigrants with pending charges, 54.6% currently detained have criminal charges pending or have been convicted of a crime.

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I visited the ICE website myself; despite the fact that you didn't leave a link.

I found this to be interesting:

ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations Statistics

www.ice.gov

For the FY 2024, 52% of the deportees had no criminal convictions nor pending charges, other than "Criminality: Other Immigration Violator."

Strange that there was no uproar for those 52%, demanding protection for their criminality at that time.

 

[HARK!]

Constitutional rights of due process apply to everyone.

'Our court has held that the term ‘the people’ under the Second Amendment does not include illegal aliens,' U.S. Circuit Judge James Ho wrote​

Illegal migrants do not have gun rights protected by 2nd Amendment: federal appeals court

A a federal court ruled that Illegal migrants do not have the right to bear arms under the 2nd Amendment, rejecting arguments by a Mexican man who was convicted of illegally possessing a handgun.

www.foxnews.com

 

[HARK!]

A victim of what?

Lawfare

The Clinton hit list is totally fake; manufactured for propaganda purposes by the GOP.

Irrelevant

 

[HARK!]

I guess you're the one doing the trolling now.

Wrong again

No, the last one.

So that's irrelevant too?

 

[Pommer]

If they have pending charges; why waste the court's time , and taxpayer dollars incarcerating them; or even worse, let a Liberal judge put them back on the street without bail, to rob, murder or rape another victim?

Well, because if we did that, (deport-based-on-“charges”), charges would be filed on all as a matter of course, eliminating the need for the rest of that pesky “due process”.

 

[Pommer]

First there is evidence of a crime.

What’s ”evidence“ of someone not “belonging” here, and allegedly breaking the immigration statutes?

 

[Aaron112]

Perhaps a desperate person.

Or as is the case for many (according to news the last ten years) , paid persons.

 

[Aaron112]

Guests don't have the same rights as a citizen, especially criminal guests.

Sometimes (how often or not I don't have the figures)
"guests", or even known and proven criminals, enjoy more rights or privilege or money or favor , even though not right, even though unjust, because the system itself is broeken (bribes? power?) and controlled or exercises by criminals (in and out of office,news,politicians,people in power/corporations) daily ?

How do they stand trial without an arrest?

Amplified Bible

30 “I can do nothing on my own initiative or authority. Just as I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just (fair, righteous, unbiased), because I do not seek My own will, but only the will of Him who sent Me.​