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The Department of Justice confirmed Monday that it has received Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard's criminal referral related to her bombshell claims that Obama-era officials "manufactured and politicized intelligence" to create the narrative that Russia was attempting to influence the 2016 presidential election, Fox News has confirmed.

The Department of Justice declined further comment, but confirmed to Fox News that the department received the referral.

Gabbard released unclassified documents Friday that reportedly show "overwhelming evidence" that then-President Barack Obama and his national security team laid the groundwork for what would be the yearslong Trump-Russia collusion probe after Trump's election win against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2016.
Wow, like Bolsonaro in reverse. In Brazil, the current president referred a criminal for indictment.
In the US a 34 times convicted criminal refers an honest president for criminal indictment.

The evil we see daily in the White House sickens me.
 
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The Department of Justice confirmed Monday that it has received Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard's criminal referral related to her bombshell claims that Obama-era officials "manufactured and politicized intelligence" to create the narrative that Russia was attempting to influence the 2016 presidential election, Fox News has confirmed.

The Department of Justice declined further comment, but confirmed to Fox News that the department received the referral.

Gabbard released unclassified documents Friday that reportedly show "overwhelming evidence" that then-President Barack Obama and his national security team laid the groundwork for what would be the yearslong Trump-Russia collusion probe after Trump's election win against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2016.
A true dictator/authoritarian move. He has been siccing the DOJ on Democrats for a while. This won't end well.
 
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"Their goal was to usurp President Trump and subvert the will of the American people," Gabbard had posted to X on Friday regarding the criminal referral. "No matter how powerful, every person involved in this conspiracy must be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The integrity of our democratic republic depends on it. We are turning over all documents to the DOJ for criminal referral."
 
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The primary source for these documents is the ODNI’s official website, www.dni.gov, where they were reportedly made available. Specifically, a press release from July 19, 2025, on the ODNI site details the release, stating that Gabbard provided the documents to the Department of Justice for criminal referral. Additionally, posts on X mention the release, with one user (@808constituent) referencing a link to the documents, though the specific URL (https://t.co/hZlJEo7rSL) is a shortened X link that cannot be directly accessed without further resolution.

That wasn't foxNews, it was "MechaHitler". A link shortener doesn't allow any "safety checks" of the URL. At least with the PDF link in Post #17, I can see the full link and have some idea what I am getting and from whom.
 
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"Over 100 documents that we released on Friday really detail and provide evidence of how this treasonous conspiracy was directed by President Obama just weeks before he was due to leave office after President Trump had already gotten elected. This is not a Democrat or Republican issue. This is an issue that is so serious it should concern every single American because it has to do with the integrity of our democratic republic," she continued.
 
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The Department of Justice confirmed Monday that it has received Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard's criminal referral related to her bombshell claims that Obama-era officials "manufactured and politicized intelligence" to create the narrative that Russia was attempting to influence the 2016 presidential election, Fox News has confirmed.

The Department of Justice declined further comment, but confirmed to Fox News that the department received the referral.

Gabbard released unclassified documents Friday that reportedly show "overwhelming evidence" that then-President Barack Obama and his national security team laid the groundwork for what would be the yearslong Trump-Russia collusion probe after Trump's election win against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2016.
If it is determined that the Obama administration created a false narrative against President Trump, I hope that any individuals found responsible will go through the judicial process and be held accountable according to the law.

However I have one question

If the Obama administration's goal was to defeat President Trump in the 2016 election by having the intelligence community and FBI create the Russia narrative, why was this kept secret until after the election? What was the point of the Russia "hoax" if it wasn't shared with the public or leaked to the media? The FBI disclosed information about Anthony Weiner’s laptop shortly before the election, but nothing about Russia. Doesn't this suggest the administration had objectives beyond influencing the election outcome?
 
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Nothing I didn't already know. All consistent with:

1. No Russian hacking of election infrastructure.
2. Russian state dump/leak operations against DNC/Clinton campaign
3. Russian social media operations relating to election. (Including a lot of pot stirring on sensitive topics from both sides.)

There are no crimes here and the statute of limitations for these non-crimes has expired.
 
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"Over 100 documents that we released on Friday really detail and provide evidence of how this treasonous conspiracy was directed by President Obama just weeks before he was due to leave office after President Trump had already gotten elected. This is not a Democrat or Republican issue. This is an issue that is so serious it should concern every single American because it has to do with the integrity of our democratic republic," she continued.
I am seeking clarification. If the intention was to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election, why were these documents released after the election?
 
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He's being referred to the DOJ because Gabbard apparently can't tell the difference between hacking a vote count and other forms of influencing an election.

For reference, here's Gabbard memo on the subject:

The vast majority of her claims about things that didn't happen have to do with hacking of voting machines, which, as we can all remember and, as that memo makes clear on page 8, was only one of the potential attack vectors they intended to investigate, yet throughout the document, she conflates hacking of voting machines with other means of influence. It's a pretty crude bait and switch that isn't even hard to spot.

She also apparently has some trouble reading a calendar and reading passages of text in context. Here's a section from page 9:

• December 16, 2016 — Though President Obama admits there is no “evidence of machines being tampered with” during the election, he says he was concerned that potential hacks “could hamper vote counting and affect the actual election process.”​
“What I was concerned about in particular was making sure that [Wikileaks/Clinton emails] wasn’t compounded by potential hacking that could hamper vote counting and affect the actual election process itself. And so in early September, when I saw President Putin in China, I felt that the most effective way to ensure that, that didn’t happen was to talk to him directly. And tell him to cut it out.” – President Obama on hacking the vote.​

Reality: Multiple IC assessments before and after the election consistently showed no credible reporting of Russian intent or capability to do what President Obama alleges.​

That sure does sound damning... if you skip over the dates and you don't bother to look up what he said immediately following that passage.

First, the dates. Yes, this quote from Obama was made on Dec 16, but he's clearly retelling an event that happened in September - specifically Sep 4-5, which in the chronology of the Gabbard memo, would put it earlier than all but one of the events she listed. So, contrary to her implications, when he had concern that Putin would hack the elections, the IC had mostly not already determined that Russia couldn't/wouldn't/didn't do that.

Second, the context. Here's the full transcript of that press conference.

And here's the relevant passage, emphasis added:

Now, with respect to how this thing unfolded last year, let’s just go through the facts pretty quickly. At the beginning of the summer, we’re alerted to the possibility that the DNC has been hacked, and I immediately order law enforcement as well as our intelligence teams to find out everything about it, investigate it thoroughly, to brief the potential victims of this hacking, to brief on a bipartisan basis the leaders of both the House and the Senate and the relevant intelligence committees. And once we had clarity and certainty around what, in fact, had happened, we publicly announced that, in fact, Russia had hacked into the DNC.​
And at that time, we did not attribute motives or any interpretations of why they had done so. We didn’t discuss what the effects of it might be. We simply let people know -- the public know, just as we had let members of Congress know -- that this had happened.​
And as a consequence, all of you wrote a lot of stories about both what had happened, and then you interpreted why that might have happened and what effect it was going to have on the election outcomes. We did not. And the reason we did not was because in this hyper-partisan atmosphere, at a time when my primary concern was making sure that the integrity of the election process was not in any way damaged, at a time when anything that was said by me or anybody in the White House would immediately be seen through a partisan lens, I wanted to make sure that everybody understood we were playing this thing straight -- that we weren’t trying to advantage one side or another, but what we were trying to do was let people know that this had taken place, and so if you started seeing effects on the election, if you were trying to measure why this was happening and how you should consume the information that was being leaked, that you might want to take this into account.​
And that's exactly how we should have handled it. Imagine if we had done the opposite. It would have become immediately just one more political scrum. And part of the goal here was to make sure that we did not do the work of the leakers for them by raising more and more questions about the integrity of the election right before the election was taking place -- at a time, by the way, when the President-elect himself was raising questions about the integrity of the election.​
And, finally, I think it's worth pointing out that the information was already out. It was in the hands of WikiLeaks, so that was going to come out no matter what. What I was concerned about, in particular, was making sure that that wasn’t compounded by potential hacking that could hamper vote counting, affect the actual election process itself.​
And so in early September, when I saw President Putin in China, I felt that the most effective way to ensure that that didn’t happen was to talk to him directly and tell him to cut it out, and there were going to be some serious consequences if he didn’t. And, in fact, we did not see further tampering of the election process. But the leaks through WikiLeaks had already occurred.​

So yeah, this is nonsense and Gabbard, Trump et al are trying to weaponize the DOJ.
Sorry, strawmen and red herrings wont work on me. This has nothing to do with voter machines and everything to do with Obama abusing his powers to dig up dirt on Trump only to just make things up when they couldn't find anything for the sole purpose of keeping Trump out of the White house. That is clear and blatant election subversion and interference. Bigger than Watergate in my opinion.
 
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Nothing I didn't already know. All consistent with:

1. No Russian hacking of election infrastructure.
2. Russian state dump/leak operations against DNC/Clinton campaign
3. Russian social media operations relating to election. (Including a lot of pot stirring on sensitive topics from both sides.)

There are no crimes here and the statute of limitations for these non-crimes has expired.
Statute of limitations didn't stop Trump being convicted.
 
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From Grok:

The primary source for these documents is the ODNI’s official website, www.dni.gov, where they were reportedly made available. Specifically, a press release from July 19, 2025, on the ODNI site details the release, stating that Gabbard provided the documents to the Department of Justice for criminal referral. Additionally, posts on X mention the release, with one user (@808constituent) referencing a link to the documents, though the specific URL (https://t.co/hZlJEo7rSL) is a shortened X link that cannot be directly accessed without further resolution.
Isn't that the Nazi spewing AI site?
 
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I am seeking clarification. If the intention was to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election, why were these documents released after the election?
Because they were concealed.
 
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Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this is the same wild goose chase that Bill Barr had special prosecutor John Durham investigate for six years and came up with three things; Noting, zilch, nada. Moreover, along with Durham the Inspector General in his report came up with the same goose egg.
 
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Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this is the same wild goose chase that Bill Barr had special prosecutor John Durham investigate for six years and came up with three things; Noting, zilch, nada. Moreover, along with Durham the Inspector General in his report came up with the same goose egg.
Two words

New evidence.
 
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New evidence.
New claims. Not new evidence. Everyone in the world knows Russia was trying to influence elections; and not just the US's. To claim that this was some kind of Obama conspiracy when we know darn well Russia hacked the Dems emails. Our Five Eyes warned us they were doing it. Trump official George Papadopulous was bragging about Russian contacts. Trump official Paul Manafort admitted to working with Russians. There were Russians at Trump tower offering Hillary dirt, and with no less than three previous investigations coming to the same conclusion. I mean Gabi et al are free to make a fool out themselves no different than John Durham and that special counsel.
 
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