ICE agents capture suspected violent MS-13 gang member, another illegal alien after police let them slip away

[wing2000]

We have seen their "judges". No thanks

"their judges"

What do you mean?

 

[ralliann]

"their judges"

What do you mean?

All the judges that are the resistance to Trump.
From attempting to take him off the ballot on.....

 

[wing2000]

All the judges that are the resistance to Trump.
From attempting to take him off the ballot on.....

I see. However, the thread is addressing Immigration judges who would not be ruling on such matters.

 

[rambot]

it took how many months to finally see this headline?

 

[ralliann]

I see. However, the thread is addressing Immigration judges who would not be ruling on such matters.

I do not trust them to judge without agenda. no matter what they are judging.

 

[Valletta]

What Obama is talking about is pretty much the same thing as the GOP Sen Lankford bipartisan bill that Trump had the GOP house kill.
There is a difference between advocating for more judges to speed up the immigration process; than waiting for those who are legally going through that process and grabbing them and deporting them because there weren't dubbed a US citizen yet. But hey, when you have daily quotas to make.....

Still with the horrible disaster of a bill? That was a stunt, sad that Democrats were even to get even one Republican on the bill. The bill was a continuation of the con that Democrat leaders used on their base--that the border was safe, secure, and closed, and that Joe was trying to do the best he could to cut down the number of immigrants but he needed legislation to do so. President Trump has proved that hoax wrong. The truth is that the Democrats in the Senate stalled a vote on the legitimate border bill passed by the House for over a year! Starting to get some heat from even Democrats they, instead of working on a Senate version of the House bill, came up with a bill to let even more people cross the border! It was dead on arrival in the House, Trump didn't have to say anything but wisely let people know about the trickery in the bill.

 

[ozso]

Both these presidents spoke about pathways to citizenship, comprehensive immigration, better border security, and arresting those who were involved in criminal activity.

I noticed they never called immigrants "rapists and murderers and drug dealers."
They did not support the amoral, deliberate cruelty that is taking place all over the US today.

They wanted people living here illegally to be deported. And they did not want anyone to employ them.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

They wanted people living here illegally to be deported. And they did not want anyone to employ them.

And they never painted them as violent, dangerous or less than human.

That helps too.

 

[ozso]

And they never painted them as violent, dangerous or less than human.

That helps too.

I keep hearing about how they're escaping all of the dangerous violence in their country.

Yet somehow no one coming in illegally from those countries is dangerous.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I keep hearing about how they're escaping all of the dangerous violence in their country.

Yeah a lot of it coming from their own governments.

Yet somehow no one coming in illegally from those countries is dangerous.

I think most people who’ve been in the US holding a job, raising a family and reporting to scheduled court appointments for years, some for several decades without a criminal record have more than proven their non violence to our society.

 

[ozso]

Yeah a lot of it coming from their own governments.

What about the cartels and the gangs?

I think most people who’ve been in the US holding a job, raising a family and reporting to scheduled court appointments for years, some for several decades without a criminal record have more than proven their non violence to our society.

What about the zillions that doesn't apply to?

 

[Fantine]

I keep hearing about how they're escaping all of the dangerous violence in their country.

Yet somehow no one coming in illegally from those countries is dangerous.

No one I know, and because so many are Catholic, I know lots.

 

[ozso]

No one I know, and because so many are Catholic, I know lots.

How many illegal immigrants out of millions do you know in Fort Smith, Arkansas? Is there a lot of Hispanic gang activity there?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

How many illegal immigrants out of millions do you know in Fort Smith, Arkansas? Is there a lot of Hispanic gang activity there?

Just a quick perusal of crime rates between Fort Smith and Los Angeles, LA is slightly safer (no offense to your home Fantine, I’m sure it’s a lovely city!) Even with all our scary illegal immigrant criminal Hispanic gangs.

(there’s black and white ones here too)

 

[ozso]

Just a quick perusal of crime rates between Fort Smith and Los Angeles, LA is slightly safer (no offense to your home Fantine, I’m sure it’s a lovely city!) Even with all our scary illegal immigrant criminal Hispanic gangs.

(there’s black and white ones here too)

You skipped the first question and missed the point of the second question which was rhetorical.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

You skipped the first question

It wasn't addressed to me. FTR, I don't know any illegal immigrants in Fort Smith, Arkansas.

and missed the point of the second question which was rhetorical.

I think you missed my point that LA, with all its scary illegal alien Hispanic gangs (among many others) isn't that much more dangerous. It's actually slightly safer.

So it can't really be all the scary illegals causing all or even most of that crime. It's mostly scary Americans doing that.

 

[ozso]

It wasn't addressed to me. FTR, I don't know any illegal immigrants in Fort Smith, Arkansas.

Exactly.

I think you missed my point that LA, with all its scary illegal alien Hispanic gangs (among many others) isn't that much more dangerous. It's actually slightly safer.

So it can't really be all the scary illegals causing all or even most of that crime. It's mostly scary Americans doing that.

That has nothing to do with the question I asked.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

That has nothing to do with the question I asked.

That's ok, it was rhetorical anyway.

 

[ozso]

That's ok, it was rhetorical anyway.

Yes. Because because only 20% of the population is Hispanic there. 20% out of 90,000. She said none of the illegal immigrants she knew where dangerous. I'm assuming there's not a whole lot MS13 or similar gang activity in Fort Smith, AK. So that was a tongue-in-cheek rhetorical question. It didn't have anything to do with how safe Fort Smith is compared to other places that do have a lot of Hispanic gangs like Los Angeles.

That said, LA can't be compared a city of 90k. LA is anything from Beverly Hills to Skid Row. Depending if you're talking about incorporated LA, or unincorporated LA, or both. So when it comes to statistics it depends on where you're talking about ie Downtown, Pasadena, Montebello, Marina Del Rey etc.

 

[Say it aint so]

Still with the horrible disaster of a bill? That was a stunt, sad that Democrats were even to get even one Republican on the bill. The bill was a continuation of the con that Democrat leaders used on their base--that the border was safe, secure, and closed, and that Joe was trying to do the best he could to cut down the number of immigrants but he needed legislation to do so. President Trump has proved that hoax wrong. The truth is that the Democrats in the Senate stalled a vote on the legitimate border bill passed by the House for over a year! Starting to get some heat from even Democrats they, instead of working on a Senate version of the House bill, came up with a bill to let even more people cross the border! It was dead on arrival in the House, Trump didn't have to say anything but wisely let people know about the trickery in the bill.

Stopped reading after the first sentence since that was wrong. It was crafted by Sens. James Lankford (R-Oklahoma), Kyrsten Sinema (I-Arizona), and Chris Murphy (D-Connecticut). Moreover, your dislike for the bill does not negate my point.