Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide and there’s no ‘client list,’ Justice Department says

[Landon Caeli]

Oh, I'm sorry. By 'it' I meant "the moon is the Earth's largest satellite." Not the thing you were just talking about that I responded to.

Do you know what "pivoting" means in a conversation?

 

[Landon Caeli]

Ms. Bondi wasn't on the stand in a court of law, she was having a loose and friendly conversation.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Ms. Bondi wasn't on the stand in a court of law, she was having a loose and friendly conversation.

Right, it wasn't perjury, it was just a lie.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Right, it wasn't perjury, it was just a lie.

It wasn't a lie. It was a conversational pivot, as she was injecting other, similar, information into the conversation such as the JFK files.

Get your facts straight.

 

[durangodawood]

Yes its possible she did not mean what she plainly said straight to our faces.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Yes its possible she did not mean what she plainly said straight to our faces.

No, she did mean everything that she directly said! What she doesn't have to do, though, is give direct answers to anyones questions, and has every right to pivot the conversation to JFK files, or "files" in general, as that's what she was talking about.

...But I do understand the urgency of many who might want to cause a scuffle within the GOP, which is the real reason why some people want to paint this as a scandal. It would be a beneficial scandal. Wouldn't it...

 

[Landon Caeli]

Look we all know what went on. Its now obvious no one is going to tell us who. Quite frankly I'm disgusted that no DOJ is going to give us the information.

The truth is they dont have to. And even if they did give us names it wouldn't prove whomever was on the list did anything.

This whole sorted affair is sick. The rich and influential shall be protected from suspicion at all costs. Thats the message. From Bidens and Trumps DOJ. I'm disgusted.

You're getting some unusual "likes" from this.... don't you think painting a scandal like this would benefit those on the left who would like to facilitate a rift within the Republican party?

Don't fall for it. There's a scandal alright, but not the kind you think.

 

[johansen]

Let's ask Gemini...

AI Overview
It can be difficult to definitively know if a politician is lying, but there are some indicators that can raise suspicion. These include:
Avoiding questions:
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Politicians might evade direct answers or deflect to other topics when asked about something potentially incriminating.
Using vague or indirect language:
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This can be a tactic to avoid making clear commitments or to obscure the truth.
Employing fearmongering:
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Manipulating emotions and using divisive rhetoric to create fear about a specific group or outcome is a common tactic.
Incongruence between words and actions:
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A discrepancy between what a politician says and what they do can be a sign of deception.
Observing body language:
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While not foolproof, some signs like nervous gestures, shaky voice, or avoiding eye contact can indicate stress associated with deception, though these can also be present in honest individuals.

this reply is worth as much time as you wasted reading it.

 

[Landon Caeli]

AI Overview
It can be difficult to definitively know if a politician is lying, but there are some indicators that can raise suspicion. These include:
Avoiding questions:
.
Politicians might evade direct answers or deflect to other topics when asked about something potentially incriminating.
Using vague or indirect language:
.
This can be a tactic to avoid making clear commitments or to obscure the truth.
Employing fearmongering:
.
Manipulating emotions and using divisive rhetoric to create fear about a specific group or outcome is a common tactic.
Incongruence between words and actions:
.
A discrepancy between what a politician says and what they do can be a sign of deception.
Observing body language:
.
While not foolproof, some signs like nervous gestures, shaky voice, or avoiding eye contact can indicate stress associated with deception, though these can also be present in honest individuals.

this reply is worth as much time as you wasted reading it.

You're missing the whole point. It was stated as if it were a *fact* that Bondi was lying... But that's not fair, because she may have been pivoting the conversation towards the summarizing of all the files she has on her desk.

So it's incorrect to state that she lied, as a fact.

 

[FreeinChrist]

No, she stated it as a fact. She lied.

We really cannot believe this administration.

 

[Landon Caeli]

No, she stated it as a fact. She lied.

We really cannot believe this administration.

Just because ya say it, doesn't make it true.

As I mentioned earlier, she may have been pivoting the conversation so she could also talk about the JFK files and the MLK files. So you can't say that she lied, as a fact, when there's the possibility that she was just going off onto something else, and wasn't caring about the 'exact wording' at the time.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Just because ya say it, doesn't make it true.

As I mentioned earlier, she may have been pivoting the conversation so she could also talk about the JFK files. So you can't say that she lied, as a fact, when there's the possibility that she was just going off onto something else, and wasn't caring about the 'exact wording' at the time.

The normal way to "pivot" a conversation and not answer the question asked, but give a different proper noun to reset the "subject" of the Q/A pair. If you are correct, then Ms. Bondi is grossly incompetent at the pivot, as she uses a pronoun (it) to answer the question, then she uses a new proper noun to "reinforce" that pivot by referring to "files". Sheer incompetence at the pivot.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Just because ya say it, doesn't make it true.

As I mentioned earlier, she may have been pivoting the conversation so she could also talk about the JFK files and the MLK files. So you can't say that she lied, as a fact, when there's the possibility that she was just going off onto something else, and wasn't caring about the 'exact wording' at the time.

just because you say she was not serious and not stating fact doesn't make it true.

Any reasoning person should be able to see that she was stating it like a fact. Of course, if she was not serious fits the idea that we cannot trust anything she says, too.

I suspect the list was destroyed by the Trump administration or it is at Mar-a-lago.

 

[Landon Caeli]

The normal way to "pivot" a conversation and not answer the question asked, but give a different proper noun to reset the "subject" of the Q/A pair. If you are correct, then Ms. Bondi is grossly incompetent at the pivot, as she uses a pronoun (it) to answer the question, then she uses a new proper noun to "reinforce" that pivot by referring to "files". Sheer incompetence at the pivot.

It was stated as a "fact" that she lied... Based on her using the word "it". "It" is non-descriptive in nature, therefore it is non clarifying in what it it describes.

Again she was pivoting the discussion to add new talking points, that were more important to discuss in her opinion, or perhaps she wanted to go in that direction. How can you say that's impossible?

 

[Nithavela]

You're getting some unusual "likes" from this.... don't you think painting a scandal like this would benefit those on the left who would like to facilitate a rift within the Republican party?

Don't fall for it. There's a scandal alright, but not the kind you think.

Party cohesion must be maintained even in the face of the inexcusable.

 

[Landon Caeli]

just because you say she was not serious and not stating fact doesn't make it true.

Any reasoning person should be able to see that she was stating it like a fact. Of course, if she was not serious fits the idea that we cannot trust anything she says, too.

I suspect the list was destroyed by the Trump administration or it is at Mar-a-lago.

That's all fine, I just disagree with calling her a liar, as a fact, as that's what was being claimed.

... We can't say she lied, as a "fact" and be honest with ourselves, although we can say that we "think" she lied in our "opinion".

 

[Landon Caeli]

Party cohesion must be maintained even in the face of the inexcusable.

I know, I know, the media is very convincing, and we fall for a lot of their propoganda.

But there comes a time where we have to be honest with ourselves. We can do that by admitting that Bondi was wanting to talk about all the different files that were on her desk, that were kept from the public for decades. Surely she was more excited about those, more than anything.

She's not a liar.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Once, my wife told me to turn left into the parking lot. But she meant to say right.

Does that make my wife a liar? Definitely not.

 

[Nithavela]

I know, I know, the media is very convincing, and we fall for a lot of their propoganda.

Your bulverisms will not avail you.

 

[RileyG]

Right, it wasn't perjury, it was just a lie.

So what’s the REAL truth?