President Trump Signs Executive Order to Defund NPR and PBS

[Laodicean60]

Fair? What are you talking about?

In international diplomacy, fairness is not a concern; it is about mutual agreements. Each country attempts to maximize its benefits in negotiations.

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
"Perhaps President Trump and his supporters need to understand basic math. Canada has 300 million fewer citizens than America, so a $200 billion trade deficit is normal. 41 million Canadians cannot consume as much as 341 million Americans."

In 2023, Canada imported roughly US $354.4 billion of goods from the United States (i.e. U.S. exports to Canada) Wikipedia. Over the same period, Canada’s average effective applied tariff rate on all imports—which reflects the very low rates under USMCA plus WTO “most-favoured-nation” duties on a small swath of products—was just 0.1 percent wto.org.

Putting those two figures together:
US $354.4 billion × 0.1 percent ≈ US $354 million
So, on the order of US $350 million of tariff revenue was collected by Canada on U.S. exports in 2023.

I get that we are a consumer nation to our detriment because of our lack of an industrial policy, and China is the opposite. This admin is trying to bring back some manufacturing, and for good reason now that China is rattling its swords.

I agree that negotiations have to take place, and Trump won't get all that he wants; that's common sense. I've never gotten what I wanted when I sold something But 350 million adds up as the years go on, and if we can reduce that, it's to our benefit after all, they didn't have to spend on military with us as their neighbors, and Trump mentioned that in the press conference.

 

[rjs330]

Why do you feel it should not be spent at the federal level? Do you think there no national benefit to it?

I don't think there is any benefit to it at any level. Not anymore. I would oppose my own state using taxpayer money for it. It offers nothing to justify taxpayer dollars being spent on it.

 

[Laodicean60]

I agree. So what can we do?

I haven't forgotten, but it's a hard one to answer, a Million-dollar question. I'm not sure unless we become China. I blame Churches for allowing it to happen at the turn of the century for not speaking out, but after all, many enjoy the tax bennies.

But for Christians:

"It can be tempting to think that the fear-inducing, hyper-partisan, misleading, and outright false content pervasive today is an exclusively modern problem. Yet for thousands of years, our Jewish and Christian ancestors have taught that deception is as old as humanity itself. In Genesis 3, the serpent manipulates Eve through a series of misleading and half-true statements to eat the forbidden fruit, then makes Adam do the same by offering him the choice through a trusted source. Sound like anything that has crossed your social media feed recently?

As Christians, we are not called to a life of half-truths and deception. We are called to follow a God who is “the way, the truth, and the life” (John 14:6). The Prayer Book also teaches that among our duties to our neighbors is “to be honest and fair in our dealings” and to “speak truth, and not mislead others by our silence.” (pg. 848) Let us therefore examine our own conduct to limit the spread of deceitful information and call upon our leaders to work towards the same.

The rapid expansion of digitalization and online platforms has enabled deceitful content to spread more rapidly and disguise itself more effectively. The nonprofit First Draft News has excellent language describing what information manipulation looks like today:

“The term ‘fake news’ doesn’t begin to cover all of this. Most of this content isn’t even fake; it’s often genuine, used out of context and weaponized by people who know that falsehoods based on a kernel of truth are more likely to be believed and shared. And most of this can’t be described as ‘news’. It’s good old-fashioned rumors, it’s memes, it’s manipulated videos and hyper-targeted ‘dark ads’ and old photos re-shared as new."

I copied this from a church website. I hold to these views.

 

[Belk]

I don't think there is any benefit to it at any level. Not anymore. I would oppose my own state using taxpayer money for it. It offers nothing to justify taxpayer dollars being spent on it.

That is a shame. I find quiet a lot of value in the programing personally. I will continue to push for public support.

 

[Bradskii]

...the Canadian $200 Billion surplus...

Still waiting.

 

[rjs330]

That is a shame. I find quiet a lot of value in the programing personally. I will continue to push for public support.

What value do you find that you can't find elsewhere? I mean you personally. How often do you watch it.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
"Perhaps President Trump and his supporters need to understand basic math. Canada has 300 million fewer citizens than America, so a $200 billion trade deficit is normal. 41 million Canadians cannot consume as much as 341 million Americans."

In 2023, Canada imported roughly US $354.4 billion of goods from the United States (i.e. U.S. exports to Canada) Wikipedia. Over the same period, Canada’s average effective applied tariff rate on all imports—which reflects the very low rates under USMCA plus WTO “most-favoured-nation” duties on a small swath of products—was just 0.1 percent wto.org.

Putting those two figures together:
US $354.4 billion × 0.1 percent ≈ US $354 million
So, on the order of US $350 million of tariff revenue was collected by Canada on U.S. exports in 2023.

I get that we are a consumer nation to our detriment because of our lack of an industrial policy, and China is the opposite. This admin is trying to bring back some manufacturing, and for good reason now that China is rattling its swords.

I agree that negotiations have to take place, and Trump won't get all that he wants; that's common sense. I've never gotten what I wanted when I sold something But 350 million adds up as the years go on, and if we can reduce that, it's to our benefit after all, they didn't have to spend on military with us as their neighbors, and Trump mentioned that in the press conference.

Can you tell me what type of manufacturing can be brought back to the US?

If bringing back manufacturing is the objective, why negotiate and make trade deals? We could instead impose tariffs to encourage the return of manufacturing.

 

[Belk]

What value do you find that you can't find elsewhere? I mean you personally. How often do you watch it.

Half of my viewing is PBS, about 3 or 4 hours a week. Mostly educational such as travel, cooking, and arts. I used to watch a lot of the nature programs but I have moved away from those lately. Rick Steves is a local favorite of course being from Seattle. Will also watch any new Ken Burns specials as they come out.

 

[Truth7t7]

If bringing back manufacturing is the objective, why negotiate and make trade deals? We could instead impose tariffs to encourage the return of manufacturing.

Donald J. Trump is not only applying tariffs for American jobs to return, he's negotiating future trade deals to benefit the US

 

[Truth7t7]

Half of my viewing is PBS, about 3 or 4 hours a week. Mostly educational such as travel, cooking, and arts. I used to watch a lot of the nature programs but I have moved away from those lately. Rick Steves is a local favorite of course being from Seattle. Will also watch any new Ken Burns specials as they come out.

I'm a taxpaing US citizen and I don't watch or read PBS/NPR, if a person enjoys it then they should fund it through viewer subscriptions and donations, keep the taxpayer out of it

Defund PBS/NPR Keep The Taxpayer Out Of It

 

[Truth7t7]

Still waiting.

CNN Business​

With tariffs and trade in the spotlight, what Trump means when he says America is ‘losing’ billions to Canada, others​

January 16, 2025​

Trade policy has once again landed in the spotlight as President-elect Donald Trump is expected to wield tariffs and other measures as key policy levers during his second administration.
Lance McMillan/Toronto Star/Getty Images/File

CNN —
When President-elect Donald Trump recently floated the idea of annexing Canada, a key reason he gave was a claim that the United States was “losing $200 billion a year” to its northern neighbor.

Speaking at Mar-a-Lago last week, Trump didn’t specify what constituted the $200 billion, but he used the figure in the context of how the US “subsidized” Canada and also had a “massive” trade deficit for items — such as cars and lumber — that he said the US does not need.

The lion’s share of the $200 billion was attributed to US defense spending of which Canada directly benefits, and the remainder is from the trade deficit, a Trump-Vance transition official told CNN.

In 2023, the US had a trade deficit of $67.9 billion dollars with Canada, Commerce Department data shows.

Trade policy has once again landed in the spotlight as Trump is expected to wield tariffs and other measures as key policy levers during his second administration.

 

[Truth7t7]

Do they, really? Trump's approval ratings hover around 40-45%. In comments under youtube videos about this topic Americans side with Canada and against Trump.

And I guess that even people who support Trump do not support his every idea and if Trump was not fixated on this, they would not care at all.

Fact still remains the same, president Donald J. Trump is going to keep tariffs on Canada and remove the Canadian surplus with the US

1 + 1 = 3

 

[Truth7t7]

It's no surprise that Americans rank 26th in math. Many Americans struggle to understand that 41 million Canadians can't consume as much as 341 million Americans because 41 million is much smaller than 340 million.

I Know basic math, and anybody knows 1 + 1 = 3

Not to hard to figure that Canada has a favorable surplus in trade with the US, and President Donald J. Trump is in the process of removing it

Have US tariffs stopped on Canada "No" and they will continue America First" MAGA!

 

[trophy33]

Fact still remains the same, president Donald J. Trump is going to keep tariffs on Canada and remove the Canadian surplus with the US

You are talking like if Trump did not change his claims or actions every day. Maybe he will, maybe he will not. Nobody knows.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

I Know basic math, and anybody knows 1 + 1 = 3

Not to hard to figure that Canada has a favorable surplus in trade with the US, and President Donald J. Trump is in the process of removing it

Have US tariffs stopped on Canada "No" and they will continue America First" MAGA!

Canada has a favorable surplus because its population of 41 million cannot consume as much as the 340 million Americans. Is this concept too complex to grasp?

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Donald J. Trump is not only applying tariffs for American jobs to return, he's negotiating future trade deals to benefit the US

I'm curious, if President Trump negotiates trade deals with low or no tariffs between the US and other countries, why would companies bring jobs back to the US?

 

[Truth7t7]

Canada has a favorable surplus because its population of 41 million cannot consume as much as the 340 million Americans. Is this concept too complex to grasp?

You can repeat your opinion 100 more times, I dont care if 10 Canadian citizens live in the country, Canada maintains a trade surplus with the US and as Donald J. Trump stated before the world, the tariffs will remain on Canada the surplus is going to be stopped

 

[Laodicean60]

Can you tell me what type of manufacturing can be brought back to the US?

If bringing back manufacturing is the objective, why negotiate and make trade deals? We could instead impose tariffs to encourage the return of manufacturing.

National security types is what I've been hearing, everything it takes to build the war machine, shipbuilding, healthcare, energy infrastructure. I highly doubt that textile, toys, but if other countries want to build here, so be it.

Trump is bribing countries to manufacture here for tariff relief, and some are coming. His ultimate goal is to weaken China and have more of the world take up the slack.

 

[rjs330]

Half of my viewing is PBS, about 3 or 4 hours a week. Mostly educational such as travel, cooking, and arts. I used to watch a lot of the nature programs but I have moved away from those lately. Rick Steves is a local favorite of course being from Seattle. Will also watch any new Ken Burns specials as they come out.

The topics you view can be found a LOT of various places. Music, travel, animals and just about anything else.

Like I said, I'm not against PBS or NPR. I'm against tax payers paying for it. There is NO NEED for it. None. Its one place we can cut and it would harm no one.

 

[Laodicean60]

Like I said, I'm not against PBS or NPR.

I am against politically biased PBS and NPR. All that other stuff is fine, especially education.