Question about Re-Marriage/Adultery

[PrettyboyAndy]

We have a friend who believes re-marriage would make you an adulterer.

And if you re-marry unless its due to death of your spouse or being cheated on, your living in sin, in a perpetual state of adultery.

I would like to hear other believers view on this.

She has a lot of scripture to backup her point.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

It is the way Jesus would have the "believer" think. I am married, and now happily so, but in the early relationship I thought I had made a big mistake. The thought would enter my mind "I wonder if I should divorce" to which the answer would always come, "Jesus said that is adultery", so I stuck with it. We now have a good relationship.

However there are circumstances in life where we have made bad choices, and God will still forgive us. Think of the story of David and Basheba in the bible, David committed adultery with her, but was still allowed to maintain the marriage to his death. Was that God's will, no, but it was his permissive will.

Then think about domestic violence, I came up with, what I believe to be a somewhat sound scriptural response to it at A Christian's view of Domestic Violence | Everybody Matters Ministry

 

[PrettyboyAndy]

It is the way Jesus would have the "believer" think. I am married, and now happily so, but in the early relationship I thought I had made a big mistake. The thought would enter my mind "I wonder if I should divorce" to which the answer would always come, "Jesus said that is adultery", so I stuck with it. We now have a good relationship.

However there are circumstances in life where we have made bad choices, and God will still forgive us. Think of the story of David and Basheba in the bible, David committed adultery with her, but was still allowed to maintain the marriage to his death. Was that God's will, no, but it was his permissive will.

Then think about domestic violence, I came up with, what I believe to be a somewhat sound scriptural response to it at A Christian's view of Domestic Violence | Everybody Matters Ministry

Amazing answer brother!

If someone re-marries, would they be living in sin?

 

[johansen]

And if you re-marry unless its due to death of your spouse or being cheated on, your living in sin, in a perpetual state of adultery.

Pretty much.

I had my own very lengthy complicated situation. My ex and i never had relations, but due to her open ended personal vow to me, of which my silence was consent, i was spiritually stuck with her for 7 years. I think that she was very close to returning to me at about year 6.5. while i can only blame myself for not praying for her in authority the way I should have, I am concerned that a number of christians who I sought counsel from, lied to me about what God revealed to them. (Or they just couldn't handle it, i dont know, but they will not talk to me.)

However there are circumstances in life where we have made bad choices, and God will still forgive us. Think of the story of David and Basheba in the bible, David committed adultery with her, but was still allowed to maintain the marriage to his death. Was that God's will, no, but it was his permissive will.

He was allowed to keep bathesheba because Uriah was dead.

It is likely that there was something going on mutually between bath &david. God could have kept Uriah alive, but then david would have to be killed. And bathsheba, for not saying no to david, even though he was the king. So, its complicated.

Also we should not presume God will forgive us.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Amazing answer brother!

If someone re-marries, would they be living in sin?

Only God knows the individual's heart and the situation that has led to it. But we should stick to the word of God as married people.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

We have a friend who believes re-marriage would make you an adulterer.

And if you re-marry unless its due to death of your spouse or being cheated on, your living in sin, in a perpetual state of adultery.

I would like to hear other believers view on this.

She has a lot of scripture to backup her point.

Re-marriage does make you an adulterer. The comparison used by Jesus in the Matthew verse was Adam and Eve, so being born again has no bearing on the content of the teaching. It affects all humans the same way.

 

[PrettyboyAndy]

Re-marriage does make you an adulterer. The comparison used by Jesus in the Matthew verse was Adam and Eve, so being born again has no bearing on the content of the teaching. It affects all humans the same way.

I am trying to explain this to the person who think its perpetual adultry to be re-married.

Can you explain this to me a bit more please?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

I am trying to explain this to the person who think its perpetual adultry to be re-married.

Can you explain this to me a bit more please?

When people are married, they become one flesh after they consummate.

Getting divorced is a human custom, which does not affect the connection formed by consummation.

Thus divorced just ends the human aspect of the relationship, nothing can remove the invisible connection created. So it becomes adultery when they re-marry and consummate.

 

[PrettyboyAndy]

When people are married, they become one flesh after they consummate.

Getting divorced is a human custom, which does not affect the connection formed by consummation.

Thus divorced just ends the human aspect of the relationship, nothing can remove the invisible connection created. So it becomes adultery when they re-marry and consummate.

Are you saying: being remarriage is continual adultery? (Edited)

 

[Gregory Thompson]

So remarriage is living in contrast adultry?

The in contrast in that sentence confuses the meaning.

But yeah, when people re-marry and have sex, it's adultery. That's what Jesus taught, the Moses rule was provided to people with hardened hearts. But in the new covenant, shouldn't we have new hearts?

 

[PrettyboyAndy]

The in contrast in that sentence confuses the meaning.

But yeah, when people re-marry and have sex, it's adultery. That's what Jesus taught, the Moses rule was provided to people with hardened hearts. But in the new covenant, shouldn't we have new hearts?

I never heard this teaching before,

I believe In perseverance of the saints/once saved always saved.

I am thinking what happens if someone gets divorced, they get saved and get remarried. They would need to divorce again to remove themselves from an adulterous relationship?

That doesn’t make sense to me.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Are you saying: being remarriage is continual adultery? (Edited)

Yes, that is what Jesus taught on Marriage.

Since sexual immorality is the sin that damages the soul according to 1st Corinthians, people won't notice the damage.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

I never heard this teaching before,

I believe In perseverance of the saints/once saved always saved.

I am thinking what happens if someone gets divorced, they get saved and get remarried. They would need to divorce again to remove themselves from an adulterous relationship?

That doesn’t make sense to me.

Churches come from the colonial lineage that was used to increase the population. It would be unlikely that the pure message from scripture on this would be taught in a breeding factory.

 

[johansen]

Yes, that is what Jesus taught on Marriage.

Since sexual immorality is the sin that damages the soul according to 1st Corinthians, people won't notice the damage.

They do..notice the damage. Its the hardened heart that doesnt care about the damage.

But they do notice it.

 

[johansen]

Maybe so, but they always play dumb about it, so I just go with they don't know jack.

It takes a long time to get to know people and they trust you..

I have a knack of finding things out sometimes. People confess things accidentally to me all the time

 

[PrettyboyAndy]

Churches come from the colonial lineage that was used to increase the population. It would be unlikely that the pure message from scripture on this would be taught in a breeding factory.

If you don’t mind me asking, do you believe in perseverance of the saints?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

If you don’t mind me asking, do you believe in perseverance of the saints?

Oh you mean that verse from Jude that says He is able to keep us from falling and present us to the Father with exceeding joy? oh yeah, I rely on it.

But soul damage is something to be aware of.

 

[jacks]

And if you re-marry unless its due to death of your spouse or being cheated on, your living in sin, in a perpetual state of adultery.

I'm wondering what her solution would be? Divorce?

 

[PrettyboyAndy]

I'm wondering what her solution would be? Divorce?

She is explaining to me, that if 2 people divorce for any reason besides death of a spouse or adultry, and they remarry, they are living in the perpetual continual sin of adultry, and unless they divorce again, they are unrepentant.

She’s explaining that it’s similar to 2 men married in a homosexual relationship.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

From my experience, people believe what they want to believe on this topic and do what they want regardless of what the bible says. Jesus provided His teaching using creation as the basis because the hypocritical leaders of the day asked Him if it was okay to get divorced for any reason trying to trap Him in His words.