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Trump EO eliminates Birthright Citizenship; 18 states and civil rights organizations sue to stop implementation, pointing to the 14th Amendment

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States, civil rights groups sue to stop Trump’s birthright citizenship order

Constitutional scholars said the president’s executive order would upend precedent and is unlikely to pass legal muster.

Birthright citizenship was established by the 14th Amendment, passed by Congress in 1868, which includes a clause reading: “All people born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

A coalition of 18 states, including New Jersey and New York, filed a lawsuit in Massachusetts, saying the order violates the constitutional rights of thousands of children and imposes undue costs on local jurisdictions that would lose federal funding tied to Medicaid and children’s health insurance.

In addition, the American Civil Liberties Union and the Lawyers for Civil Rights filed separate legal challenges in New Hampshire and Massachusetts, respectively, on behalf of parents whose children would not be eligible for citizenship under Trump’s order.

The plan also faces significant logistical hurdles [in addition to constitutional ones]. The administration plans to enforce Trump’s order by withholding documents, such as passports, from people it deems ineligible for citizenship. But the administration hasn’t yet explained who — hospitals, health insurance companies, local or state governments, federal officials or some other authority — would review parents’ legal documents to assess whether their children could become citizens.
 
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Actually, as the 14th amendment precludes that pretty sure that such an EO would not be enforceable.
 
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Birthright citizenship was established by the 14th Amendment, passed by Congress in 1868, which includes a clause reading: “All people born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
It doesn't matter. Trump is president.
 
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For Illegals.

Two very important words. For illegals.
Yes but right now per the 14th amendment being born here is enough. In other words, a woman could literally step across the border give birth and the child is a citizen no matter what her status ( or how long she has been here).
 
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It doesn't matter. Trump is president.
With things like amendments it does. Even if it gets to the supreme court for them to basically reinteret the amendment that takes time.
 
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Yes but right now per the 14th amendment being born here is enough. In other words, a woman could literally step across the border give birth and the child is a citizen no matter what her status ( or how long she has been here).
Correct. And not everyone has a problem with it.
 
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Trump signs order ending birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants

President Trump signed an executive order on Monday ending birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants -- one of a slew of border-related orders he is signing to overhaul U.S. immigration policy and border security.

"The privilege of United States citizenship is a priceless and profound gift," Trump says in the order.
 
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Actions are illegal. People are children of God.
Yes, but if you are here illegally then the action of you being here is illegal and the way that is addressed is to send you back home. Illegal people may be kind of a mean way of putting it but that is what that means the person's action of existing in this particular area is an illegal action.
 
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I hadn't thought of benefits.
If children born in the US had to pass an additional qualification--citizen parents--it could have a deadly effect.
And changing requirements for Medicaid applications wouldn't require an amendment.
How cruelly devious.
 
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Correct. And not everyone has a problem with it.
Everyone has a problem with what the amendment? People have taken issue with it for a while which is interesting in a way.
 
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I hadn't thought of benefits.
If children born in the US had to pass an additional qualification--citizen parents--it could have a deadly effect.
And changing requirements for Medicaid applications wouldn't require an amendment.
How cruelly devious.
What would be so deadly about the US is FAR from the only country with that "requirement" There are a number of different requirements that can come with any government program of which Medicaid is one. You are right that alone does not require an amendment.
 
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One of the consequences of repealing birthright citizenship is that a child born to aliens in the US does not in all circumstances automatically acquire the nationality of its parent(s). Thus, the child will be stateless, a citizen of no country at all.
 
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Everyone has a problem with what the amendment? People have taken issue with it for a while which is interesting in a way.
Not everyone has taken issue with birthright citizenship.
 
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One of the consequences of repealing birthright citizenship is that a child born to aliens in the US does not in all circumstances automatically acquire the nationality of its parent(s). Thus, the child will be stateless, a citizen of no country at all.
What if they said from here forth basically. As to the child being stateless many countries allow children born to their cititzens to be citizens ( just like the United States that would mean that the child would not be stateless, but would be a citizen of whereever the parent or parents' were citizens, Now, there ARE some cases where the child would be stateless, but not many compared to how many would not be.
 
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Not everyone has taken issue with birthright citizenship.
I did not say everyone has. I said that some people have taken issue with the concept for quite a while.
 
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What if they said from here forth basically. As to the child being stateless many countries allow children born to their cititzens to be citizens ( just like the United States that would mean that the child would not be stateless, but would be a citizen of whereever the parent or parents' were citizens, Now, there ARE some cases where the child would be stateless, but not many compared to how many would not be.
Well, if it's not very many then there is no need to be concerned for them.
 
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