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[Always in His Presence]

it means people wrote the scriptures and that the writers were inspired by God to write.

God Breathed. Divine Inspiration

Not human inspiration.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Saint Peter put it this way.

2 Peter 1:20. 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

God Breathed. Divine Inspiration

Not human inspiration.

What does that even mean?

 

[Always in His Presence]

What does that even mean?

You have to be joking.

God speaks to man

Man writes down what God speak to him

The writing is Divinely Inspired

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

You have to be joking.

God speaks to man

Man writes down what God speak to him

The writing is Divinely Inspired

Is that a divine dictation theory of inspiration that you're advocating?

 

[Aaron112]

God speaks to man

Not to everyone in the forum though. God has rules He states in Scripture about who He listens to even, and who He never listens to.

 

[The Liturgist]

Then from my POV we are blending terms.

A theophany is Manifestation of God that is tangible to the human senses. In its most restrictive sense, it is a visible appearance of God in the Old Testament period often, but not always, in human form.

While a Christophany is Christ in the preincarnate appearance of Christ

Jesus Christ is God, according to the Nicene Creed / CF.com Statement of Faith, so all Christophanies are Theophanies, but not all Theophanies are Chrisrophanies. This is why I referred to Christophanies as a subset of Theophanies*

By Christological references, I am referring both to Christophanies and implicit and explicit references to Christ.

I hope that helps.

* This is becausee there have also been Pnuematophanies; and there have neen audible but not (according to John 1:1-18) visual Patrophanies - specifically the only two cases where Scripture explicitly refers to the Father speaking are at the Baptism and Transfiguration of Christ in the Synoptic Gospels, and on both occasions he said “This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased” but at the Transfiguration God the Father added “Hear Him!” And this might well be the extent to which we have heard the Father, although there are occasions in the Old Testament which I suspect are of a Patrophanic nature, for example, one might be inclined to suspect the Father was talking to the Son in Genesis 1, but it could have been the Son talking to the Father, we don’t know, and it ultimately is a mere scriptural curio.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

it means people wrote the scriptures and that the writers were inspired by God to write.

so in essence, we should trust them, more then men

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

so in essence, we should trust them, more then men

Most Christians do. Not more than men, perhaps better than "mere men".

 

[Always in His Presence]

Is that a divine dictation theory of inspiration that you're advocating?

It is not a theory it is a literal statement.

Either you believe the word of God or you do not.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

What do you think God Breathed means?

That sir is a translation mystery. I suspect it means inspired.

 

[Always in His Presence]

That sir is a translation mystery. I suspect it means inspired.

The mystery ends when study is made.

it means exactly what it says. Holy Scripture is from God, not man, not tradition.

Saint Paul recognized it. Are you greater in knowledge than him?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Most Christians do. Not more than men, perhaps better than "mere men".

So this thing called "Sola Scriptura" would be a great thing then. not a bad thing, since it focuses our attention on these men moved by God. not men who may or may not interpret these men moved by God?

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

So this thing called "Sola Scriptura" would be a great thing then. not a bad thing, since it focuses our attention on these men moved by God. not men who may or may not interpret these men moved by God?

No.

Sola scriptura is a bad thing because it is not true.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

The mystery ends when study is made.

it means exactly what it says. Holy Scripture is from God, not man, not tradition.

Saint Paul recognized it. Are you greater in knowledge than him?

Have you not read what saint Peter says about the scriptures?

2 Peter 1:20-21 LSB Know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes by one’s own interpretation. (21) For no prophecy was ever made by the will of man, but men being moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Have you not read what saint Peter says about the scriptures?

2 Peter 1:20-21 LSB Know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes by one’s own interpretation. (21) For no prophecy was ever made by the will of man, but men being moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

That is God Breathed

The Scriptures have not been added to. By mere men who reside in palaces or traditions

Scripture stands on its own

Like Saint Paul plainly stated:

2Tim 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Either you believe God’s Word or you don’t.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

That is God Breathed

The Scriptures have not been added to. By mere men who reside in palaces or traditions

Scripture stands on its own

Like Saint Paul plainly stated:

2Tim 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Either you believe God’s Word or you don’t.

Make up your mind! Either you are writing about scripture, or you are writing about the Word who is God.

 

[Always in His Presence]

No.

Sola scriptura is a bad thing because it is not true.

Sola Scriptura is the purest form of faith and doctrine.

I don’t believe a person can insult millions of Christians and have a pure heart

 

[Always in His Presence]

Make up your mind! Either you are writing about scripture, or you are writing about the Word who is God.

My mind is made up I’m not the ones who is confused on this matter.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

My mind is made up I’m not the ones who is confused on this matter.

Logos means a spoken word, graphe means writing. Scripture is Latin and graphe is Greek, both mean writing. Your post fails to distinguish between what is spoke and what is written.