As Trump Drains the Swamp, Which Alphabet Agencies Should Go First?

[HARK!]

Congress give those agencies their regulatory authority and can take it away if they wish. Would you cut Congress?

No, we need Congress to cut the agencies.

Which ones should go first?

 

[ralliann]

Congress give those agencies their regulatory authority and can take it away if they wish. Would you cut Congress?

These agencies should have no authority to regulate. They are unelected bureaucrats. Congress should give authority to any regulation. These bureaucrats remain as presidents and congressman come and go. Unanswerable to we the people. That needs to stop.

 

[BCP1928]

These agencies should have no authority to regulate. They are unelected bureaucrats. Congress should give authority to any regulation. These bureaucrats remain as presidents and congressman come and go. Unanswerable to we the people. That needs to stop.

Their authority to regulate comes directly from Congress and may be changed or withdrawn at any time. The regulatory agencies write and enforce regulations to carry out laws passed by Congress according to procedures established by Congress. Congress does and has always given its authority to all regulations.

 

[HARK!]

These agencies should have no authority to regulate. They are unelected bureaucrats. Congress should give authority to any regulation. These bureaucrats remain as presidents and congressman come and go. Unanswerable to we the people. That needs to stop.

We should have listened to Ron Paul, and shut down the whole lot of them.

 

[HARK!]

The regulatory agencies write and enforce regulations

They enforce code, not law.

 

[Chesterton]

The DMV. I know it's not federal, but somebody should do something.

 

[BCP1928]

They enforce code, not law.

OK, but their authority to write and enforce code comes from Congress. Those "unelected bureaucrats" are merely employees following orders and it is the President's responsibility to see that they do so, a task that he is also responsible to Congress for.

 

[HARK!]

The DMV. I know it's not federal, but somebody should do something.

Vassals of the DOT.

 

[HARK!]

OK, but their authority to write and enforce code comes from Congress. Those "unelected bureaucrats" are merely employees following orders and it is the President's responsibility to see that they do so, a task that he is also responsible to Congress for.

Where does the Constitution absolve Congress of their duties?

The way I read it, it's the President who signs bills into law, not faceless bureaucrats.

 

[Fantine]

Yes they are.


I Stack NPR with the Government founded propaganda mouthpieces that I listed.

Now can we get back on topic. Which alphabet agency would you cut first?



No CCCP. Org is not a Federal agency; but I can see how it might compare to NPR.

The Secret Service. The former president used them like an ATM in his last term, overcharging the government and busting their budget in 8 months. $11K for golf carts. Cut their budget. He deserves protection but he should house them and provide their golf carts at cost--or even gratis.

 

[ralliann]

Their authority to regulate comes directly from Congress and may be changed or withdrawn at any time.

That is not who should be making law. It needs to stop. The supreme court has already ruled on this with the chevron decision.

The regulatory agencies write and enforce regulations to carry out laws passed by Congress according to procedures established by Congress. Congress does and has always given its authority to all regulations.

No, it is not how our government is supposed to work.

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[BCP1928]

They enforce code, not law.

Right. They write the Code of Federal Regulations as authorized by law. They are authorized to do so by the Adminstrative Procedures Act of 1946, a law passed by Congress and specifically authorized in the text of all laws passed by Congress.

 

[BCP1928]

That is not who should be making law. It needs to stop. The supreme court has already ruled on this with the chevron decision.

No, it is not how our government is supposed to work.

• Chevron deference refers to a landmark Supreme Court ruling, Chevron v Natural Resources Defense Council, which decided in 1984 that judges should defer to federal agencies in interpreting ambiguous parts of statutes12345. However, the recent decision in Loper Bright Enterprises v. Secretary of Commerce overturned this doctrine, replacing it with a rigorous de novo review standard2.
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It still works that way, this is a change in the way ambiguities are resolved. It gives the courts more oversight into how regulations are written.

 

[BCP1928]

Where does the Constitution absolve Congress of their duties?

It does not, although it apparently doesn't stop them from shirking.

The way I read it, it's the President who signs bills into law, not faceless bureaucrats.

That's right. Congress passes laws, the President signs them and then hands them down to his regulatory agencies in the Executive Branch to write and enforce regulations pursuant to those laws. Really, this is basic civics stuff. Don't they teach that in schools any more?

 

[ralliann]

It still works that way, this is a change in the way ambiguities are resolved.

Yes, by the courts. The judicial system.

It gives the courts more oversight into how regulations are written.

It places the authority of courts to decide law and write law, not agencies.
As it should be.

 

[BCP1928]

Yes, by the courts. The judicial system.

It places the authority of courts to decide law and write law, not agencies.
As it should be.

All it does is give the courts more oversight into the writing of regulations by the regulatory agencies. It does not give them authority to write law. That is the responsibility of Congress and remains so.

 

[BCP1928]

Civics 101

Bills are passed by Congress. They become laws when signed by the President.

Regulations are detailed instructions written by the regulatory agencies necessary to enforce those laws. The are written by the regulatory agencies as directed by those laws with the oversight of Congress and the courts.

 

[Sif]

No, we need Congress to cut the agencies.

Which ones should go first?

100,000% The ATF. As a LEGAL gun owner, I cannot imagine a more USELESS agency.

 

[HARK!]

Right. They write the Code of Federal Regulations as authorized by law. They are authorized to do so by the Adminstrative Procedures Act of 1946, a law passed by Congress and specifically authorized in the text of all laws passed by Congress.

This needs to be reevaluated. These bureaucracies take a vague law and write whatever code comes to their imaginations, and then change it at their whims.

This leads to the instability of our government.

In addition some of these same agencies also enforce the codes that they write. They serve as the Legislative and the Executive, thereby undermining the separation of powers, thereby undermining our Constitutional Republic.

Then there is the IRS,, who write the code, enforce the code, and have their own courts, thereby rolling all three branches of government in to one branch of faceless unelected bureaucrats.

So much for Democracy.

 

[FenderTL5]

The DMV. I know it's not federal, but somebody should do something.

..aahhh, eliminate the locations where most get their voter IDs. It sounds like a plan coming together. Do you live in Alabama per chance?