Who are the Nephilim (Genesis 6) ?

[Gregory Thompson]

How can an angel, a spirit, have relations with a human?

The scientists do not have an angel in storage and cannot experiment.

 

[ozso]

I do ! What is your’s? . You are the one challenging everything here . Show where you stand and then I will do the same.

While I'm questioning and critiquing what I'm reading, there isn't any particular counter theory I hold to.

So I'll ask again, do you have an answer to that question?

Is it that the Nephilim were Satan's plot to corrupt Jesus' bloodline? That's one I've heard before.

 

[Apple Sky]

How can an angel, a spirit, have relations with a human?

I presume angels can take on human form, take the three angels who visited Abraham he thought he was just entertaining guests & what about the Lot incident at Sodom & Gomorrah.

 

[Lost4words]

I think people have it very wrong. Angels are spirits. They cant have relations with humans in a physical way...ok, you may be able see one but as for physical relations, i say no....

 

[ozso]

The scientists do not have an angel in storage and cannot experiment.

I think if someone is going to insist that angels copulated with human women to produce hybrid offspring, they should also have a theory as to how that works.

 

[ozso]

I think people have it very wrong. Angels are spirits. They cant have relations with humans in a physical way...ok, you may be able see one but as for physical relations, i say no....

I take it the angel/human hybrid theory is not a view held in Catholocism?

 

[ozso]

I presume angels can take on human form, take the three angels who visited Abraham he thought he was just entertaining guests & what about the Lot incident at Sodom & Gomorrah.

The question is do they just sometimes appear to be men, or do they actually become incarnate flesh and blood men capable of reproduction?

 

[Postvieww]

Is it that the Nephilim were Satan's plot to corrupt Jesus' bloodline? That's one I've heard before.

Yes that is my belief. Satan has tried numerous times in scripture to prevent Jesus from fulfilling His mission to humanity. The topic we are discussing is just one of those.

 

[Lost4words]

I take it the angel/human hybrid theory is not a view held in Catholocism?

No idea...

 

[Gregory Thompson]

I think if someone is going to insist that angels copulated with human women to produce hybrid offspring, they should also have a theory as to how that works.

Since all the so-called off spring were killed off post flood by various cultures (Deuteronomy 2) there's nothing to "science"

 

[Postvieww]

The question is do they just sometimes appear to be men, or do they actually become incarnate flesh and blood men capable of reproduction?

1 Corinthians 15:38-40​

King James Version​

38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There are flesh and blood bodies and celestial bodies. I find it amusing that some claim to know the limitations of celestial bodies without benefits of scientific examination of said celestial bodies. Truth is we have no idea what angels are capable of . So for me all of the human reasoning claims that angels are limited in this or that is unfounded rhetoric. It should be obvious that giants were different and not considered human by God since He wanted them eliminated.

 

[Apple Sky]

The only way I can rationalize is that one of the females was carrying the DNA. I'm no bible guru and this thread goes against what I thought and it's also interesting.

I agree with you it's the only way this corrupt gene could have continued.

In the movie Noah, Noah wants to destroy the human race and doesn't want his sons to have children. In perhaps the most shocking part of the film, Noah plans to kill his unborn grandchild, the child of Shem's wife, if it is a girl.

 

[ozso]

Since all the so-called off spring were killed off post flood by various cultures (Deuteronomy 2) there's nothing to "science"

According to scripture they were all killed off during the flood. So if they survived that, why couldn't they have survived Deuteronomy 2? And what's to stop angels from mating with women any time between Noah's time and now?

 

[Postvieww]

Since all the so-called off spring were killed off post flood by various cultures (Deuteronomy 2) there's nothing to "science"

Some skeletal remains have been scientifically studied.

 

[ozso]

1 Corinthians 15:38-40​

King James Version​

38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There are flesh and blood bodies and celestial bodies. I find it amusing that some claim to know the limitations of celestial bodies without benefits of scientific examination of said celestial bodies. Truth is we have no idea what angels are capable of . So for me all of the human reasoning claims that angels are limited in this or that is unfounded rhetoric. It should be obvious that giants were different and not considered human by God since He wanted then eliminated.

Bro, I just simply asked a question.

 

[Apple Sky]

The question is do they just sometimes appear to be men, or do they actually become incarnate flesh and blood men capable of reproduction?

As it says in the Bible, the sons of god took them wives and lay with them & if we go to book of Job it tells us who the sons of God are.

 

[Postvieww]

According to scripture they were all killed off during the flood. So if they survived that, why couldn't they have survived Deuteronomy 2? And what's to stop angels from mating with women any time between Noah's time and now?

Jude 6 And the angels which kept not their go first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Unless we have another defection by additional angels the ones who committed this deed are currently in chains preventing a repeat.

 

[Apple Sky]

And what's to stop angels from mating with women any time between Noah's time and now?

Because God is holding them in chains until judgement day.

 

[Postvieww]

Bro, I just simply asked a question.

I tried to answer it. Keep asking if you wish.

 

[ozso]

Some skeletal remains have been scientifically studied.

The "coneheads"? I've heard of elongated skulls before. But where it's attributed to ritual head binding. They bind the head of an infant so the soft skull becomes elongated. Just like one culture keeps adding thick metal rings to the neck to make it abnormally long. Or plates increasing in size to make the lower lip abnormally big.