Man at Kamala rally thrown out and mocked for saying Jesus is Lord

[FreeinChrist]

There is a bit of a difference between 'Trump was right' and 'Mussolini is always right', dontcha think?

No, because the implication going forward is that Trump is right, even if he was and is wrong. Very wrong.

 

[FaithT]

You don’t have to vote for (not) the antichrist. You could vote FOR a decent candidate instead. I recommend Peter Sonski of the American Solidarity Party. Not a clone of Harris or of Trump.

The problem with voting for one bad candidate to stop another bad candidate is that such a vote influences YOU to be much more approving of the person you just voted for.

I disagree. If I‘d vote for Sonski it’s like throwing a vote away.

 

[chevyontheriver]

I disagree. If I‘d vote for Sonski it’s like throwing a vote away.

Your vote just cancels out somebody who is voting for Trump just to stop Kamala.

 

[Jamdoc]

Your vote just cancels out somebody who is voting for Trump just to stop Kamala.

and a vote for 3rd party in a battleground state just adds a vote for the person you dread more getting in office.

 

[FaithT]

Your vote just cancels out somebody who is voting for Trump just to stop Kamala.

Can we just agree disagree? Still friends?

 

[chevyontheriver]

Can we just agree disagree? Still friends?

Even though I think lots of people are going to do terrible things in the way they vote, they can still be my friends. Be they elephants or donkeys.

 

[chevyontheriver]

and a vote for 3rd party in a battleground state just adds a vote for the person you dread more getting in office.

No. That only works if you presume that I have to vote for your guy as the only moral choice, which it isn’t. I choose not to vote for one bad candidate just to stop another bad candidate. It is not my failure if that bad candidate wins anyhow. That is the fault of the people who actually voted for the bad candidate. It’s on them. It’s not on me.

 

[trophy33]

But, while Church and State should be separate, mocking a large voting bloc's beliefs publicly, is not going to pan out well.

Or shouting religious chants during a political meeting. Both should be put aside - trying to be religious during politics and mocking religion by politicians.

However, I do not see it as mocking beliefs, it was rather mocking the out-of-place behavior.

For a better illustration, imagine that during the math lesson in a school, some student will start to shout religious chants. Teacher will tell him "reserve this for the church meeting". The student was wrong, the teacher was right. If the teacher said it in a more humorous way, then he would still mock the student and his improper behavior only, not the beliefs as such.

 

[chevyontheriver]

C isn't getting elected, it's just not realistic. every time I've voted 3rd party it has been throwing my vote away. They get like 1% of the vote for the state, don't earn a single elector in the EC
it's just a pointless protest vote.

It's not your fault that you voted for C and C got only 1% of the vote. It's those people who shut out C (like the Democrats shut out RFK Jr) and make sure no other voices can ever be heard. Party officials and Media moguls that only want you to hear what they want you to hear. And all of those people who actually voted for A to stop B and voted for B to stop A.

Minnesota had an election not that many years ago. The popular former mayor of St. Paul Norm Coleman who had just become a Republican after years of being a Democrat was running against the son of legendary Hubert Humphrey. And Jesse Ventura entered the race too. Humphrey was favored for a landslide. It was his race to lose.

Skip Humphrey was very much like the son of Bob Casey, the beloved late governor of Pennsylvania, not quite like his father but trading on his father's name. He was kind of like Walz before Walz. Coleman was a newly minted Republican in a Democratic state. And Jesse 'The Body' Ventura (not even his real name) was a Pro Boxer (not a real boxer). The expected ratio of votes was 4:3:1.

What happened was a surprise. Coleman was closing the gap with Humphrey, but they were seen as Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee and Ventura was seen as the sane option avoiding both of them. He upended them both. It came out that Ventura won, Coleman came in a respectable second, and Humphrey had egg on his face finishing a distant third.

I'm not suggesting that can happen this election. The other candidates have been totally shut out from the Media as if they don't even exist. After all, NOBODY wants a governor Jesse Ventura. Nobody in the political Parties that is. He wasn't half bad as a governor.

 

[chevyontheriver]

No, because the implication going forward is that Trump is right, even if he was and is wrong. Very wrong.

That is your presumption. And likening him to Mussolini is basically the same as likening him to Hitler. You DO want to go their, don't you?

 

[chevyontheriver]

So I don't believe she is mocking God, as she is a Baptist and has expressed her faith in God.

"Jesus is Lord."

Expected Baptist response: "Amen."

Heard Baptist response: "You're at the wrong rally."

Conclusion: Yup. At the wrong rally.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

while I don't think Kamala is the Antichrist.. I was just having a hard time finding a news article to link to but I saw a lot of videos of the exchange..
Kamala Harris is being called Anti-Christ following Wisconsin rally | The Express Tribune

But as the videos show..
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Someone at the rally yelled out "Christ is King, Jesus is Lord!" and Kamala said "you guys are at the wrong rally".. to applause.

So if there was ever any doubt..
and believe me I'm not much of a Trump fan by any means
but a candidate that mocks my Savior? I vote against her. .

Huh? Here is the video. Hecklers were not saying what this article claims. Please provide a video. Thanks!

 

[Hazelelponi]

and a vote for 3rd party in a battleground state just adds a vote for the person you dread more getting in office.

Our neighbors cannot take the economic policies, open immigration policies and the foreign wars Kamala promises.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

And yet anyone who thinks Jesus Christ is Lord just got told by the candidate herself that they don’t belong in her camp.

There is something here that needs untangled.

Trump and his followers tend to appropriate and exploit the Holy Name of Jesus and our God for political points.
Trump took a photo op for a picture of him holding a Bible and then later even exploited its popularity by selling them with his stamp of approval.
What he does with Christianity is sacrilegious and the right wing evangelicals don't seem to possess the discernment or character to call him out.
What we see with them is an excellent example of why religion ought to have no place in politics.

So at a rally where a heckler yells, "Jesus is Lord" the response has less to do with belief in Jesus and more to do with belief in Trump.

P.S.
And I do not support Kamala.

 

[trophy33]

Huh? Here is the video. Hecklers were not saying what this article claims. Please provide a video. Thanks!

The fanatical cheering of the crowd to every half sentence she says is so unnatural and unhealthy. Yes, I know its the same in Trump rallies.

They are just two politicians, but people act like teenage girls at a boy band concert.

 

[Jamdoc]

No. That only works if you presume that I have to vote for your guy as the only moral choice, which it isn’t. I choose not to vote for one bad candidate just to stop another bad candidate. It is not my failure if that bad candidate wins anyhow. That is the fault of the people who actually voted for the bad candidate. It’s on them. It’s not on me.

Well you could have voted for the opposing candidate but now you have the worst of 2 evils in the white house, because your battleground state decided the Electoral college in their favor

 

[Jamdoc]

Or shouting religious chants during a political meeting. Both should be put aside - trying to be religious during politics and mocking religion by politicians.

However, I do not see it as mocking beliefs, it was rather mocking the out-of-place behavior.

For a better illustration, imagine that during the math lesson in a school, some student will start to shout religious chants. Teacher will tell him "reserve this for the church meeting". The student was wrong, the teacher was right. If the teacher said it in a more humorous way, then he would still mock the student and his improper behavior only, not the beliefs as such.

See she didn't say "save that for Church" to separate Church and State though
She said "you're at the wrong rally" and said they were supposed to be at the smaller one implying a Trump rally. IE the religious chant wasn't totally unwelcome in politics... just unwelcome in a Democratic party rally.

 

[trophy33]

See she didn't say "save that for Church" to separate Church and State though
She said "you're at the wrong rally" and said they were supposed to be at the smaller one implying a Trump rally. IE the religious chant wasn't totally unwelcome in politics... just unwelcome in a Democratic party rally.

Because she expected them to be provocateurs from the Trump's camp. Not sincere democratic voters who are religious and just forgot where they are, for a moment.

 

[Jamdoc]

Huh? Here is the video. Hecklers were not saying what this article claims. Please provide a video. Thanks!

#1. That perspective the microphones were pointed at Kamala, they wouldn't pick up someone yelling behind the camera as well. So you don't hear the crowd.
#2. The video cuts from her talking about abortion, to telling people they're at the wrong rally, if the microphone had picked up the yelling of Christ is King, and Jesus is Lord, they edited it out (because the Media doesn't ever want "Jesus is Lord" to be recorded, they always cut that out when they can, and usher people away when they say it live.

In other videos from different camera angles without that edit cut, you can hear what he says.

 

[Jamdoc]

Because she expected them to be provocateurs from the Trump's camp. Not sincere democratic voters who are religious and just forgot where they are, for a moment.

and that plays out too
that Democratic voters are expected to not be Christian
and that Christians are unwelcome in the modern Democratic Party