Mark Halperin predicts 'greatest mental health crisis' in US history if Trump defeats Harris

[Servus]

Reality check: None of those things happened in 2016. Hillary was gracious. The Obamas were cordial, even when Trump almost let the door slam in Michelle's face.

In 2020, 73 million Republicans practically turned the country upside down, with at least a thousand storming the capitol. Just learned Ted Cruz hid in a closet. Hawley ran for his life.

4 years later, many of them still need to get a grip on reality.

Reports of Democratic riots, like most rally talk, have been mostly exaggerated.

With a Trump loss, hopefully there will gradually be a return to discerning the truth.

 

[mourningdove~]

I am sure you have been told this many times before, but your candidate will be like an earthquake, hurricane, flood, tornado, and forest fire hitting simultaneously.
To not cry would not be normal.

Wow. I've never heard a description like yours before. I appreciate your sharing your thoughts.

There will be many tears, too, if your candidate wins. And they won't be tears of joy.
It will be like experiencing a death, the death of America as many of us have known and loved her.
There will be grieving. There will be mourning.

Either way, nearly half the Country is going to be very unhappy with the election results.
Gonna be alot of tears.

We are very blessed to have God as our Strength and Comfort in the difficult times.

 

[mourningdove~]

The US has had a mental health crisis since circa 2012 (Obama era, but also when social media began taking off), regardless of who wins, there will remain a crisis until America adopts psych wards and more communal forms of society. The roots of this crisis could go back even further, to the 1950s when state ran psychiatric hospitals began to close down. Now, not everyone needs to be thrown into a psych ward, but it should be an option for folks to voluntarily go to.

You hit on a some important things there.

Our society really isn't equipped to handle a bigger mental health crisis than it is already facing.

That is where I think ties within a local faith community can potentially be helpful.
And strong family ties, if one is blessed to have them.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Yeah but Republicans are worse because they took it to the Capitol building instead of to neighborhoods across the country.

You mean they didn't burn down their own neighborhoods like the other guys did?

 

[AlexB23]

You hit on a some important things there.

Our society really isn't equipped to handle a bigger mental health crisis than it is already facing.

That is where I think ties within a local faith community can potentially be helpful.
And strong family ties, if one is blessed to have them.

Amen to this. The church needs to step up, and help those with mental health issues, and if people had traditional marriages, this could improve mental health as well.

 

[AlexB23]

As a moderate, I guess we can say that both the Democrats and Trump supporters have been violent. Luckily, a large subset of both Trump supporters and Democrats are peaceful people. It is just the ones that make the news that are not peaceful.

 

[Fantine]

Is the America you say is alive a country where a dictator would jail people who disagree with him? A country that tried to take away our Healthcare 60 times? Where immigrants are cut with razor wire or thrown back into the Rio Grande?

Who would abandon the Ukraine and let Putin, our enemy, make his first of many planned conquests?

Life is for love, not hate and fear.

It would be the end of the American dream.

You hit on a some important things there.

Our society really isn't equipped to handle a bigger mental health crisis than it is already facing.

That is where I think ties within a local faith community can potentially be helpful.
And strong family ties, if one is blessed to have them.

Sadly, many of the local faith communities believe in what Al.Franken calls "Supply Side Jesus" and are clueless on his real message.

 

[mourningdove~]

Sadly, many of the local faith communities believe in what Al.Franken calls "Supply Side Jesus" and are clueless on his real message.

You got a point there.

 

[Servus]

Is the America you say is alive a country where a dictator would jail people who disagree with him? A country that tried to take away our Healthcare 60 times?

Obama took away the free healthcare I got from my employer for 11 years. I'm currently having $99 taken out of each weekly paycheck for health insurance. And I'm on the low rung of working class jobs.

 

[Aldebaran]

By believing their candidate, with 8 million less votes, won--even after 60 plus lawsuits proved he was lying.

They had to vote first. That seems to be the real issue. You don't seem to approve how they voted and accuse them of turning the country upside down. Not very tolerant of you to attack 73 million people because you don't like how they voted.

 

[Aldebaran]

Is the America you say is alive a country where a dictator would jail people who disagree with him?

Such as those who protested on Jan. 6th?

A country that tried to take away our Healthcare 60 times?

Never happened.

Where immigrants are cut with razor wire or thrown back into the Rio Grande?

Nobody forces people from other countries to crawl through razor wire, which wouldn't even have to be there if our current president and VP didn't invite them to enter the country illegally.
Perhaps they never heard of entering through one of the ports of entry.

 

[mourningdove~]

As a moderate, I guess we can say that both the Democrats and Trump supporters have been violent.

If we're reallly going to be honest here, the Democrats have way out numbered the Republicans when it comes to public acts of violence.

Yes, there were some Republicans ... and other troublemakers, and instigators ... that broke laws at the Capitol on January 6th, but not all Republicans in the crowd there that day participated in the wrong doing. Only a small minority.

On the other hand, think back on the George Floyd riots, 'the summer of violence', all of that. That was much more public violence than we've ever seen from Republicans.

So, I think we need to be careful when accusing both parties of the same amount of violence. It just hasn't been the same.

 

[AlexB23]

If we're reallly going to be honest here, the Democrats have way out numbered the Republicans when it comes to public acts of violence.

Yes, there were some Republicans ... and other troublemakers, and instigators ... that broke laws at the Capitol on January 6th, but not all Republicans in the crowd there that day participated in the wrong doing. Only a small minority.

On the other hand, think back on the George Floyd riots, 'the summer of violence', all of that. That was much more public violence than we've ever seen from Republicans.

So, I think we need to be careful when accusing both parties of the same amount of violence. It just hasn't been the same.

Yeah, it does seem that the liberals, especially with the college riots in 2024 (I even watched a body cam video that showed how violent the protestors were, a window got broken at a university in the Southwestern USA) were more violent at the moment, and even to this day.

Wanna know something funny? The moderates (both center-left, center, and center-right) have not seemed to commit any violence, so if we were to make a ranking, the moderates would be the least violent, then the far-right Republicans, and finally the far-left liberals might be the most violent.

In other words, moderates are the best.

 

[Aldebaran]

If we're reallly going to be honest here, the Democrats have way out numbered the Republicans when it comes to public acts of violence.

Yes, there were some Republicans ... and other troublemakers, and instigators ... that broke laws at the Capitol on January 6th, but not all Republicans in the crowd there that day participated in the wrong doing. Only a small minority.

On the other hand, think back on the George Floyd riots, 'the summer of violence', all of that. That was much more public violence than we've ever seen from Republicans.

So, I think we need to be careful when accusing both parties of the same amount of violence. It just hasn't been the same.

And the invitation from democratic lawmakers to become aggressive and violent is excused by the MSM. Telling people to get in the faces of Republicans in public places and to harrass them, and saying they're going to "burn it all down" if Trump wins is something Republicans could never get away with saying. It would be called out as incitement of violence. When a democrat does it, it's called encouraging people to let their thoughts be known and to exercise their free speech rights, even though it ends up with property in flames and people dead.

I truly fear for what they would be willing to do if Trump is declared the winner of the election in 2 1/2 weeks.

 

[AlexB23]

And the invitation from democratic lawmakers to become aggressive and violent is excused by the MSM. Telling people to get in the faces of Republicans in public places and to harrass them, and saying they're going to "burn it all down" if Trump wins is something Republicans could never get away with saying. It would be called out as incitement of violence. When a democrat does it, it's called encouraging people to let their thoughts be known and to exercise their free speech rights, even though it ends up with property in flames and people dead.

I truly fear for what they would be willing to do if Trump is declared the winner of the election in 2 1/2 weeks.

I truly fear what happens regardless of who wins. That is why my parents (center to center-right), and I (center) will leave the USA on a vacation during the election to avoid the potential instability from both the left and right. Pray that there is peace between the two parties, regardless of who wins.

 

[mourningdove~]

They had to vote first. That seems to be the real issue. You don't seem to approve how they voted and accuse them of turning the country upside down. Not very tolerant of you to attack 73 million people because you don't like how they voted.

This is where the discussion gets abit wonky ... and potentially abit offensive ...

For anyone to say that Republicans 'turned the Country upside down' in 2020 by not voting for the Democratic candidate is quite a strange way to see things. Afterall, in 2020 we were still a free Country. We still had the right to vote. So ... what did those 73 million Republicans do wrong?

 

[mourningdove~]

And the invitation from democratic lawmakers to become aggressive and violent is excused by the MSM. Telling people to get in the faces of Republicans in public places and to harrass them, and saying they're going to "burn it all down" if Trump wins is something Republicans could never get away with saying. It would be called out as incitement of violence. When a democrat does it, it's called encouraging people to let their thoughts be known and to exercise their free speech rights, even though it ends up with property in flames and people dead.

I truly fear for what they would be willing to do if Trump is declared the winner of the election in 2 1/2 weeks.

Honestly? I believe 'the people running things' are willing to do anything to stop Trump from every returning to the White House. I mean, like, anything.

We are living in very dangerous times.

 

[Aldebaran]

I truly fear what happens regardless of who wins. That is why my parents (center to center-right), and I (center) will leave the USA on a vacation during the election to avoid the potential instability from both the left and right. Pray that there is peace between the two parties, regardless of who wins.

Whatever happens would probably be mostly in the cities, such as happened during George Floyd's riots. That's what happened in mostly "blue" parts of the country.
If individuals who are known to the community as Trump voters, they might be targeted for harassment if Trump wins. One reason there are so few Trump signs in yards, even though Trump is leading the polls in most swing states.
For reference, Clinton was ahead by 6% nationally in October of 2016. Now, Harris is ahead by 0.5% nationally. Guess who's set to win!

 

[mourningdove~]

I truly fear what happens regardless of who wins. That is why my parents (center to center-right), and I (center) will leave the USA on a vacation during the election to avoid the potential instability from both the left and right. Pray that there is peace between the two parties, regardless of who wins.

Good for you, that you all can get away.
Many folks are not as fortunate as you, to have that option.
Could be you find yourselves staying away longer than expected, if things suddenly turn very bad.
I hope you will be praying for America, while you are away.

 

[Aldebaran]

Honestly? I believe 'the people running things' are willing to do anything to stop Trump from every returning to the White House. I mean, like, anything.

We are living in very dangerous times.

Oh, I know. It wasn't long ago (a year or two at most) when commentators were saying, "I sure hope we don't start seeing political assassinations because if that ever happens, this country is finished!"
Now, 2 attempts have been made on the life of Trump, and it's already become old news, and the divisive rhetoric is no different than before the first assassination attempt.
If he wins on Nov. 5th, I won't be surprised if attempts are made again to keep him from taking office in January. In fact, I will be absolutely shocked if it doesn't happen. That's how low my expectations have become.