Flat Earthers: What They Believe and Why

[Apple Sky]

Like the men who actually did it, you mean? Those who, when they stepped onto the moon's surface chose to read from Genesis 1 which was broadcast all over the world.

You mean the ones who wouldn't swear on the Bible that they went to the moon, when asked to.

 

[Apple Sky]

Who is that guy? All you need is a green screen and you can put whatever scenery you want in the background. I can even put a video playing in the background. I’ve done it in my animations. I put cartoon characters into a video game background using a green screen background.

Ah, just like these astronauts do on the so called ISS.

Green is the scene

 

[Strong in Him]

You mean the ones who wouldn't swear on the Bible that they went to the moon, when asked to.

There are a number of reasons why people might not swear on a Bible - I didn't when I was on jury service.

Assuming that is what happened, that is.

 

[Strong in Him]

Look your entitled to your belief as I am mine, the truth about this phony moon walk will all come out one day.

You're entitled to your belief, you are not entitled to call fellow Christians "liars" because they do not say what you want to hear.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Ah, just like these astronauts do on the so called ISS.

Green is the scene

I think the bigger problem is your willingness to believe that NASA would say something so absurd that they have less technology than they had 65 years ago. That they would say that they could do something 65 years ago but they can’t do it today. Your willingness to accept such an absurd statement made on a TikTok video says a lot about your ability to discern truth from fiction.

 

[BNR32FAN]

You mean the ones who wouldn't swear on the Bible that they went to the moon, when asked to.

Yeah that’s pretty admirable of them obeying Jesus’ words in Matthew 5:34-37. A liar would’ve had no problem with swearing on the Bible now would he?

 

[Piers Plowman]

What's that got to do with anything?
Are you saying that because they haven't been BACK then that means they never went in the first place?

Well, now, to be fair, I do find it odd that the government isn't attempting to send someone back to the moon at the very least a couple of times every decade..

 

[Piers Plowman]

Same principle.
Matthew 5:22 talks about calling people, "Raca". This was an Arabic term of contempt.
You have been told that 2 fellow Christians have walked on the moon and your response is "they're lying and deluded Freemasons." Those aren't exactly words of kindness and encouragement. You have said that 2 of your brothers in Christ are liars and cult members.

Now, personally, I usually refrain from accusing other believers to be violating the Ninth Commandment, but if it is true that they are freemasons, I have doubts that they are as a good Christian as they claim to be.

 

[Piers Plowman]

You mean the ones who wouldn't swear on the Bible that they went to the moon, when asked to.

To be fair to @Strong in Him, as for myself personally, I refrain from all sorts of oaths or swearing, a la Anabaptists.

 

[Strong in Him]

Well, now, to be fair, I do find it odd that the government isn't attempting to send someone back to the moon at the very least a couple of times every decade..

That's as maybe.
But it is not proof that men have never walked on the moon or that such a thing is impossible.

 

[Strong in Him]

Now, personally, I usually refrain from accusing other believers to be violating the Ninth Commandment, but if it is true that they are freemasons, I have doubts that they are as a good Christian as they claim to be.

Not all of them are, or were, Freemasons.

 

[Strong in Him]

Ah, just like these astronauts do on the so called ISS.

Your fellow flat-earther in these threads has said that they have personally taken a photo of the ISS.
You don't even believe them.

 

[Apple Sky]

you are not entitled to call fellow Christians "liars"

I agree so why did @prodromos ?

Oh and by the way the Astronauts are not Christians they are Freemasons pretending to be Christian.

 

[Strong in Him]

I agree

So don't do it then.

Oh and by the way the Astronauts are not Christians they are Freemasons pretending to be Christian.

Do you have evidence of that - oh no; silly me.

 

[prodromos]

I understand about the seal/clay verse, but this is only your opinion. I cannot dispute Dean on anything else.

Perhaps you didn't see that I added the specific details of his lie in my post above. It has nothing to do with a seal/clay verse.

 

[Strong in Him]

I agree so why did @prodromos ?

As far as I remember the discussion was about a certain person who made a specific claim.
If someone makes a claim, or statement, it is very simple to fact-check, or test it. If the statement is found to be false there are several alternatives) they made the claim in ignorance; didn't know what they were talking about, ii) they made the claim without bothering to check the facts, iii) they were deliberately telling an untruth. If it is known that the person knew certain facts but made a statement to the contrary, we can say they are lying.

You have also made a specific claim - you have made it about a group of people whom you have never met or spoken to. You have not even allowed for the possibility that they may be well-meaning people who made an honest mistake.
You have called them liars. You have said that Christians who HAVE the Truth, who belong to Jesus who is Truth and who have the Spirit of Truth, are deluded Freemasons.
Can you prove it? (<- this is me, not holding my breath.)

 

[Apple Sky]

He is also a liar.
He did s video presentation of someone walking across a football field with the camera on the ground where they slowly disappeared from the bottom up as they moved away from the camera. Dean claimed the football field was flat and the person disappearing as they moved away is because "that's how our eyes work. It turns out football fields are not flat so that water does not pool when it rains, but rather drains off quickly. He has been informed of this fact but he has refused to remove his video.

And where is this video ? Do you have a link ?

 

[Apple Sky]

You have also made a specific claim - you have made it about a group of people whom you have never met or spoken to. You have not even allowed for the possibility that they may be well-meaning people who made an honest mistake.
You have called them liars. You have said that Christians who HAVE the Truth, who belong to Jesus who is Truth and who have the Spirit of Truth, are deluded Freemasons.
Can you prove it?

I don't have to prove it, all the evidence speaks for it's self.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Ah, just like these astronauts do on the so called ISS.

Green is the scene

So you don’t care if it’s true or not you just post it because it happens to align with your agenda? You don’t know who the guy in the video is or who posted the video on TikTok but you’re willing to believe that NASA would say that they can’t do something today that they were able to do 55 years ago. There’s nothing about that statement that strikes you as odd? What I’m seeing here is that it seems like you don’t question anything that aligns with your agenda but if it is in opposition to your agenda then you scrutinize it considerably. That’s not a very objective position to hold to.

 

[Apple Sky]

So you don’t care if it’s true or not you just post it because it happens to align with your agenda? You don’t know who the guy in the video is or who posted the video on TikTok but you’re willing to believe that NASA would say that they can’t do something today that they were able to do 55 years ago.

NASA Astronaut Don Pettit being interviewed, shares his thoughts on going to the moon. Pretty shocking that we no longer have the technology to go back to the moon - anyone know what happened to it?