Fake Firefighters Endorse Donald - Scranton Episode

[DaisyDay]

Scranton firefighters were not holding pro-Trump signs at rally, union says

The Scranton Fire Department's union, Local 60, announced that its firefighters weren't holding "Scranton Firefighters for Trump" signs during the former presid

fox56.com

During former President Donald Trump's rally at the Riverfront Sports Complex, FOX56 saw several people holding "Scranton Firefighters for Trump" signs.
However, the union posted on its official Facebook page Wednesday stating that no members of Local 60 were carrying the signs.
"The signs seen were not a representation of SFD Local 60 nor an endorsement of any candidate," the union said on Facebook.​

https://www.pahomepage.com/news/fake-endorsement-concerns-in-lackawanna-county/

“None of our guys were holding those signs that I’ve seen. I can’t really control what other people do. I would assume the post I made I thought it would set the story straight that we didn’t endorse a candidate. If another candidate comes something like this happens again I would have pretty much to do the same post,” explained Allen Lucas the Scranton Fire Department firefighter’s union president.

Again local 60 has not endorsed a presidential candidate the sign’s origins are unknown a spokesperson for the trump campaign tells 28/22 News they did not make them.​

This isn't the first time this year that Trump has faked endorsements from union workers. He also has faked endorsements from celebrities such as Taylor Swift (after she called him out on it, he posted like a petulant teen, "I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT")

I find this not only dishonest but pathetic from a grown man.

 

[Vambram]

I find this not only dishonest but pathetic from a grown man.

Perhaps Donald Trump himself was not aware that the local people in the campaign was falsely appearing to show that union endorsement.

 

[Fantine]

From his Tulsa rally in the height of the pandemic in 2020 (the one that caused Herman Cain to get fatal COVID) I know he orchestrates his fan base.
He had online solicitations to get black men to attend "an event" in Tulsa on that day, offering them $20 and a free t-shirt. At the height of the pandemic, it was the only "event" happening. He expected (and probably reported) about 15,000 but media said it was only about 5,000 unmasked people when the pandemic was 2 months old.
The campaign probably printed the signs as well. If the theme of every rally is "Fear and Falsehood" 2024, why should we expect real firefighters and real signs?

 

[iluvatar5150]

He had online solicitations to get black men to attend "an event" in Tulsa on that day, offering them $20 and a free t-shirt. At the height of the pandemic, it was the only "event" happening.

Were those legitimate / confirmed or were they one of many hoaxes?

The campaign probably printed the signs as well.

They certainly look like professionally-printed campaign signs.

 

[Vambram]

Do y'all really want to talk again about the COVID-19 pandemic which had less than a 1% fatality rate unless a person had comorbidities? Nevertheless, on the topic of local campaign organizations for Trump OR Harris, I'm not going to hold the candidates responsible for signs & stuff done by local campaign staffs.

 

[DaisyDay]

Perhaps Donald Trump himself was not aware that the local people in the campaign was falsely appearing to show that union endorsement.

That would hold more water if 1) he hadn't accused the Harris campaign of shipping in paid supporters and 2) if he hadn't done this before.

 

[Larniavc]

I find this not only dishonest but pathetic from a grown man.

Mr Trump and by extension the entire membership of the GOP has never once lied or obfuscated the truth for personal gain.

 

[Fantine]

We all saw it on Craigslist. It just gave a number but it was obvious who it was for.

 

[iluvatar5150]

We all saw it on Craigslist. It just gave a number but it was obvious who it was for.

Sure, but who posted it?

 

[DaisyDay]

Do y'all really want to talk again about the COVID-19 pandemic which had less than a 1% fatality rate unless a person had comorbidities?

Trump proved that he was incapable of handling an actual, sustained crisis. The USA had one of the higher death rates of western countries - Russia and Mexico "winning" with Brazil and the USA coming in third and fourth, neck and neck.

Estimating excess mortality due to the COVID-19 pandemic: a systematic analysis of COVID-19-related mortality, 2020–21

Mortality statistics are fundamental to public health decision making. Mortality varies by time and location, and its measurement is affected by well known biases that have been exacerbated during the COVID-19 pandemic. This paper aims to estimate excess ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Nevertheless, on the topic of local campaign organizations for Trump OR Harris, I'm not going to hold the candidates responsible for signs & stuff done by local campaign staffs.

Of course not. Probably not even for stealing songs after the artists demanded they stop, right?

 

[DaisyDay]

Mr Trump and by extension the entire membership of the GOP has never once lied or obfuscated the truth for personal gain.

He really cracked up the guy interviewing him....

 

[rambot]

And that's part of the peoblem with Trump. It ain't just him. It's an up and down peoblem too.

Suddenly we have people faking representing someone else and that is not an ethical problem for the party.

You have people distributing these signs and t-shirts randomly.

There is no more ethical standard of behaviour.

 

[wing2000]

He really cracked up the guy interviewing him....

"the weave"

 

[Vambram]

2) if he hadn't done this before.

Please provide proof.

 

[Vambram]

And that's part of the peoblem with Trump. It ain't just him. It's an up and down peoblem too.

Suddenly we have people faking representing someone else and that is not an ethical problem for the party.

You have people distributing these signs and t-shirts randomly.

There is no more ethical standard of behaviour.

When has Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, or other leaders in the Democratic Party consistently demonstrated ethical behavior on the campaign trail? Too much of what they say when campaigning are lies and half-truths.

 

[RileyG]

He really cracked up the guy interviewing him....

"I don't ramble"

"basically"

 

[Always in His Presence]

From his Tulsa rally in the height of the pandemic in 2020 (the one that caused Herman Cain to get fatal COVID) I know he orchestrates his fan base.
He had online solicitations to get black men to attend "an event" in Tulsa on that day, offering them $20 and a free t-shirt. At the height of the pandemic, it was the only "event" happening. He expected (and probably reported) about 15,000 but media said it was only about 5,000 unmasked people when the pandemic was 2 months old.
The campaign probably printed the signs as well. If the theme of every rally is "Fear and Falsehood" 2024, why should we expect real firefighters and real signs?

I've already debunked the story to you close to a year ago - I live in the Tulsa area -

Please stop posting misinformation.

 

[Always in His Presence]

We all saw it on Craigslist. It just gave a number but it was obvious who it was for.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/fabricated-craigslist-ad-about-trump-rally-actors-circulates-again-2024-03-27/

A fabricated Craigslist advertisement offering payment to actors to pose as protesters at a Phoenix rally for former U.S. President Donald Trump dates back to at least 2017 and is recirculating in March 2024.
A Facebook post, opens new tab of a screenshot says in part, “Actors needed (Phoenix Convention Center). Actors/help needed for event tomorrow from 2-11pm. $15 per hour. Duties include protest activity and holding signs that are Pro Trump. Minorities welcome and needed! Looking to fill about 500 spots.”

Reuters addressed, opens new tab the same fabricated screenshot when it circulated online in June 2020. The screenshot was also posted previously on Facebook in November 2019, opens new tab.
An article published on the AZ Central website reported in August 2017, opens new tab that a similar Craigslist ad offering $10 per hour for actors to fill roles as Trump supporters in Phoenix appeared that year.

The ad as seen in the circulating screenshots does not exist, opens new tab on the Phoenix “talent gigs” page of Craigslist.

It is a lie.

 

[Fantine]

So both sides have used Craigslist.

 

[Always in His Presence]

So both sides have used Craigslist.

Big red letters in post above the one quoted.

What does fabricated mean?