Adult film industry jumps into campaign in support of Kamala Harris

[RDKirk]

What the plan does lay out is a focus on regulating, not banning, digital content and content that violates underlying conservative principles. The interpretation that the bill could lead to a ban on pornography comes from extremist sectors that fear stricter measures to control this issue that often leads to social problems.

"...regulating...content that violates underlying conservative principles" is far scarier than merely banning porn.

That's the very kind of thing the First Amendment is to prevent the government from doing. Creating an imperial presidency that is able to flout the Bill of Rights is what I spent a career in the military to oppose. I don't necessarily disagree with the conservative sentiment, but I vigorously disagree with the means they intend to use to implement it.

 

[Michie]

*permission to post in full*

1. The reasons pornography is not wrong.​

Pornography isn’t wrong because sex is bad or the body shameful. It’s wrong because sex is good and the body magnificent! As Christians we must never forget whose idea sex was in the first place. It was not thought up by Hugh Hefner or by Cosmopolitan magazine but by God! In fact, God’s very first commandment to humanity in the Bible is to “be fruitful and multiply” (Gen 1:28)! And as philosopher Dr. Peter Kreeft noted, “I do not think he meant for us to grow oranges and invent calculators.”

Pornography is wrong because it removes sexual intimacy from its natural context, turning it into a commodity to be bought and sold. It has been rightly said that the problem with porn is not that it shows too much but that it shows too little—too little of the human person.

Pornography reduces the mystery and beauty of a man or woman to a collection of body parts to be used rather than recognizing them as persons to be loved. It reduces the great mystery and sanctity of human sexuality to a trivial activity that need not be of any real importance.

2. Pornography is not just a man’s issue.​

While it is certainly true that men have cornered the market on visual pornography, it’s not true that women don’t also struggle. One survey revealed that 34 percent of female subscribers of Today’s Christian Woman online newsletter admitted to intentionally accessing Internet porn.

Because pornography is predominantly consumed by men, many women who struggle with pornography feel an even greater sense of shame and isolation. One young woman I know put it this way:

For over seven years, I was addicted to hardcore pornography, masturbation, and lust—and I am a woman. Often we hear that women may struggle with fantasy and romance novels, but porn—porn is a guy thing. One of the most shaming statements I ever heard was, “Women just don’t have this problem.” I started to lose hope after I heard that. How do you argue with the ‘fact’ that only men struggle with porn? It is sad, because this mindset is causing so much damage to women. It causes many women to question their sexuality and wonder if they are homosexual because they are involved in a sin “only men” get caught up in. It isolates them, silences them, keeps them trapped in this sin and drives them further away from freedom and into the darkness.

If you or a woman you know struggles with pornography, be assured that you are not alone. Help is available, and healing is possible. You might begin by visiting the website Beggar’s Daughter.

3. Porn stars don’t enjoy what they do.​

When I inquired of a friend of mine, a former porn star, if this was the case, she said, “Well, there are several reasons why girls get into the porn industry, but a hardcore sex drive isn’t one of them. I know, because that’s what I used to tell people in interviews.” Another former porn star put it this way:

Sex-packed porn films featuring freshly dyed blondes whose evocative eyes say ‘I want you’ is quite possibly one of the greatest deceptions of all time. Trust me, I know. I did it all the time, and I did it for the lust of power and the love of money. I never liked sex. I never wanted sex, and in fact I was more apt to spend time with Jack Daniels than some of the studs I was paid to fake it with. That’s right—none of us freshly dyed blondes like doing porn. In fact, we hate it. We hate being touched by strangers who care nothing about us. . . . Some women hate it so much you can hear them vomiting in the bathroom between scenes. Others can be found outside smoking an endless chain of Marlboro Lights. . . . But the porn industry wants YOU to think we porn actresses love sex. They want you to think we enjoy being degraded by all kinds of repulsive acts.

Pornography “immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world” (CCC 2354). One such illusion is that the women in the porn industry enjoy making pornography. While this may be a convenient illusion for those seeking to justify their pornography use, the reality behind the fantasy is another story entirely.

Three Things You Need to Know About Pornography

Pornography is wrong because it removes sexual intimacy from its natural context, turning it into a commodity to be bought and sold. Here are three things you need to know.

www.catholic.com

 

[Michie]

*Permission to post in full*

Kristof perspective, and we’ll talk about this here later in the episode is that yeah, it’s pornography, it’s porn, and he’s not going to get a lot of people reading the New York Times thinking that porn itself is evil. They think, oh, pornography, what’s the big deal? But they’ll at least be opposed to rape and to child pornography. I would hope that the vast majority of the readers of the New York Times, the vast majority of people in general would be against these kinds of things.

But there are many, many, hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people that do enjoy these kinds of things based on Pornhub’s search rankings. Kristof goes on to say, “Its site is infested with rape videos. It monetizes child rapes, revenge pornography, spy cam videos of women showering, racist and misogynist content and footage of women being as fixated in plastic bags. A search for girls under 18, no space or 14YO leads, in each case, to more than 100,000 videos. Most aren’t of children being assaulted, but too many are.”

At the time Kristof was writing this article, Pornhub had minimal content regulation. For example, I’m sure there were terms that would try to be struck down like, if you just tried to upload a video that was called child sex or child porn, or even 17 year old or 15 year old spelled out, it might get flagged or struck down, but people are always trying to game the system, so they’ll spell it, girls under 18, and under 18 is one word so it doesn’t get flagged, or instead of 14-year-old, it’s 14YO, in order to be moderation and flagging.

It’s just absolutely grody. I feel bad for Kristof, he had to go through Pornhub and watch this kind of stuff. I wouldn’t do that. I can watch videos of children who are being killed through the abortion process, even that makes my stomach absolutely churn. That’s like directly handling radioactive isotopes in order to study radioactivity. I’m not going to damage my health in that way, even trying to find Kristof’s article, I couldn’t remember the title, so I just searched for Kristof Pornhub to find the article.

Continued below.

Fighting Pornhub and the Scourge of Pornography

Trent examines a recent New York Times expose on Pornhub, reveals the porn industry's "dirty laundry," and describes how we must fight "Big porn."

www.catholic.com

 

[chevyontheriver]

This topic although derailed from the intent of the op always reminds me of the ‘pound of flesh‘ phrase. It perfectly describes the porn industry and those that look at it as a right.

I suspect that the porn purveyors have plenty of information on who they have sold their warez to over the years. Think of the blackmail opportunities.

 

[MForbes]

Good gawd, folks.

Look, I'm not a Kamala supporter OR a Trump supporter......but you’re whining about the porn industry supporting Kamala when a huge chunk of Christians are supporting Raving Pervert Trump?

It is to laugh...bwahahahaha!!!!

 

[RileyG]

Hang on, I'll get you a link to WBS...

Sorry dude, they shut it down in 2023. That hurt's.

Anyway, it was a bulletin board system like we're using, but not nearly as cool and with a lot less feature.

The porn outfits made bulletin board systems better to make chatting with the porn creators a better and easier experience. Think OnlyFans.

Saying Weinstein had failing is charitable. The man is pig. BUT, he did create a lot of good media. Of course, the women who started in it suffered badly.

btw I didn't know you were so young, for some reason I thought you were an old guy like me.

I’m 29, I’m still somewhat young

Thanks for the response

Blessings

 

[RileyG]

Good gawd, folks.

Look, I'm not a Kamala supporter OR a Trump supporter......but your whining about the porn industry supporting Kamala when a huge chunk of Christians are supporting Raving Pervert Trump?

It is to laugh...bwahahahaha!!!!

I’m tired of both of them, honestly.

 

[RileyG]

Oh, yeah Riles,

I mean,

If it wasn't true, could such a scandalous and shameful thing be posted on a heavily moderated Christian oriented bulletin board system ?
Surely it would be removed, it were an obvious lie.

And how could it be spotted as an obvious lie ? Well, someone might post an article about something then happened 30 years ago and say "See ?"
While completely ignoring that Harris has held elected positions in most of the last 25 years.

And I don't know how you sleep your way into an elected position.

It's all about black women and their perceived hypersexuality.

There, I said it out loud.

It's about racism, misogyny and the Cult of the 45th President.

(But, hey, dude, I'm just a devil's advocate)

What people do in their private lives is none of my business, and no, even if she did (hypothetically) it’s no one’s business.

I don’t know why any adult cares about who slept with who….it’s odd.

 

[prodromos]

It's all about black women and their perceived hypersexuality.

But Harris is not black. She's Irish Indian and has no African roots

 

[Michie]

Her Father was Jamaican and he was black. Her mother was from India.

 

[Lady Bug]

Good gawd, folks.

Look, I'm not a Kamala supporter OR a Trump supporter......but your whining about the porn industry supporting Kamala when a huge chunk of Christians are supporting Raving Pervert Trump?

It is to laugh...bwahahahaha!!!!

I have a really hard time believing that certain supporters did not look up adult videos of Stormy Daniels. As I said, this doesn't mean that I'm voting Kamala, but come on now.

 

[Cosmic Charlie]

What people do in their private lives is none of my business, and no, even if she did (hypothetically) it’s no one’s business.

I don’t know why any adult cares about who slept with who….it’s odd.

In the north woods we say “weird” but odd will do.

 

[Cosmic Charlie]

Her Father was Jamaican and he was black. Her mother was from India.

And , if I may, why bring the Irish into this?

 

[Wolseley]

Let's just take a break from politics everything for a minute and get upset (because I know this is going to upset a LOT of people) about something else I point out (because a lot of people hate it when I point out stuff).

But I'm just making polite cocktail party conversation here:

We wouldn't have this nice, organized little chat board without porn.

Well, not like this anyway, it would be more like the old WBS chat system, which was usable but not like this nice chat system.

Porn created the good chat systems.

We can also pass large, high quality photographs because of porn. They helped standardize the formats.

Same with streaming.

And facetime.

And traffic optimization on boardband networks.

There are about 15 or so great things we use every time we get on this big interwebs of ours that can be directly traced back to the use of porn.

Now,

I'm not defending porn. I mean, there are a couple of great things that came out of Nazi Germany too: The autobahn, VW motors, Siemens Corp. but I wouldn't defend any of that as worth the war we had to fight to stop these weirdos.

I'm just pointing out that sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. I mean "have" to. You can't really use the internet or the World Wide Web and avoid the things porn have done to benefit them. I mean, do I NOT use the traffic QoS in my router to make sure my wife's movies don't buffer when she watches them ?

Do I use some obscure, inefficient format to send images ?

Never compress a video file ?

Stop posting on Christian forums ?

So, I just a little philosophical today.

I don't know as I'd go so far as to credit porn with all that.....after all, the internet itself began as a military application, to allow commanders to communicate quickly with forces across the world. In that sense, the information superhighway isn't a superhighway at all, it's a Roman road: built by the army, and the civilians use it. And, of course, the military continues to hone its usefulness even today

Good gawd, folks.

Look, I'm not a Kamala supporter OR a Trump supporter......but your whining about the porn industry supporting Kamala when a huge chunk of Christians are supporting Raving Pervert Trump?

It is to laugh...bwahahahaha!!!!

Well, maybe Trump is a raving pervert (although I think it's a lot more likely that he's just a flawed, sinful human being with the same weaknesses and failures that we all have), but Trump wasn't the one who left s.e.m.e.n stains on a blue dress. Odd how the Democrats seem to forget all about that, isn't it?

(I had to use periods above because apparently CF's hyper-vigilant automatic censor thinks the name for the male reproductive fluid is a naughty word. Good Lord.)

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[Lady Bug]

I don't know as I'd go so far as to credit porn with all that.....after all, the internet itself began as a military application, to allow commanders to communicate quickly with forces across the world. In that sense, the information superhighway isn't a superhighway at all, it's a Roman road: built by the army, and the civilians use it. And, of course, the military continues to hone its usefulness even today

Well, maybe Trump is a raving pervert (although I think it's a lot more likely that he's just a flawed, sinful human being with the same weaknesses and failures that we all have), but Trump wasn't the one who left s.e.m.e.n stains on a blue dress. Odd how the Democrats seem to forget all about that, isn't it?

(I had to use periods above because apparently CF's hyper-vigilant automatic censor thinks the name for the male reproductive fluid is a naughty word. Good Lord.)

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Yeah, maybe Trump left stains on a red or green dress instead. Huge difference!

I'm voting for him but this thread is grasping at straws to justify their political sides, lol.

 

[The Liturgist]

You are absolutely right. The modern internet got this way because of porn. All the high speed internet and image compression and color monitors in 16.7 million colors, and HDMI and the whole lot of it was to enhance the viewing of porn. No, not the initial idea of the internet, because that was a military thing, brought to you by the need to send massive amounts of data around to the National Labs for the production of nuclear weapons. But pretty much everything after that.

I'm not saying 'thank a pornographer' but at least it is factual that how you experience the internet today was due to the demands of millions of porn addicts downloading pornographic movies and before that just the pictures.

Actually the early Internet was lovely, and you are speaking to someone lucky enough to have gone to college to get a computer science degree one year before “Eternal September.” The worst thing that ever happened to the Internet was the abolition of the acceptable use policy. Back when it was just academia using it, the system was blissful. You could safely admin your servers with telnet, since access to the Internet was not available to the general public, and people could actually be banned, from the Internet.

Much of it consisted of Usenet, which originated as a UNIX thing separate from the Internet proper, with UNIX machines using something called UUCP over telephone lines, and that still existed in the early 90s but was mercifully a rarity, like the acoustic modem. Once Usenet merged into the Internet and UNIX got the definitive reference implementation of tcp/ip, which is used by Windows 9x, but Windows NT got its own native drivers, which you can see if you compare the commands and their output for IP between, say, Windows 98 and Windows 2000 or XP or anything newer, but pre-PowerShell, there is a world of difference.

 

[Michie]

And , if I may, why bring the Irish into this?

In 2018, the Black father of Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris, the Jamaican-born professor Donald Harris, wrote that the family was descended from white enslaver Hamilton Brown. Brown was born in Ireland in 1776 before moving to the then-British colony of Jamaica.

Kamala Harris’ purported Irish ancestry highlights complicated backstory of identity and enslavement

Presidential candidate’s potential ties to an Irish slave owner complicate narratives around colonial legacies and the proper place of Black Irish identity in history.

theconversation.com

 

[RileyG]

In 2018, the Black father of Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris, the Jamaican-born professor Donald Harris, wrote that the family was descended from white enslaver Hamilton Brown. Brown was born in Ireland in 1776 before moving to the then-British colony of Jamaica.

Kamala Harris’ purported Irish ancestry highlights complicated backstory of identity and enslavement

Presidential candidate’s potential ties to an Irish slave owner complicate narratives around colonial legacies and the proper place of Black Irish identity in history.

theconversation.com

So she’s Jamaican, Irish, and Indian?

 

[prodromos]

Her Father was Jamaican and he was black. Her mother was from India.

He is more than half Irish, although I was mistaken in that he does have African descent on his father's side. His mother's maiden name is Finegan

 

[chevyontheriver]

Actually the early Internet was lovely, and you are speaking to someone lucky enough to have gone to college to get a computer science degree one year before “Eternal September.” The worst thing that ever happened to the Internet was the abolition of the acceptable use policy. Back when it was just academia using it, the system was blissful. You could safely admin your servers with telnet, since access to the Internet was not available to the general public, and people could actually be banned, from the Internet.

Much of it consisted of Usenet, which originated as a UNIX thing separate from the Internet proper, with UNIX machines using something called UUCP over telephone lines, and that still existed in the early 90s but was mercifully a rarity, like the acoustic modem. Once Usenet merged into the Internet and UNIX got the definitive reference implementation of tcp/ip, which is used by Windows 9x, but Windows NT got its own native drivers, which you can see if you compare the commands and their output for IP between, say, Windows 98 and Windows 2000 or XP or anything newer, but pre-PowerShell, there is a world of difference.

I used telnet*, and even finger. Remember archie, and the sequels of that including veronica and jughead? My first remote connection was using a 600 baud acoustic modem. Wow the changes.

By 'Eternal September' I think you refer to the massive influx of new users in 1993 when AOL opened the floodgates of the internet to millions of savages who had not been inculturated to the often polite but also often unforgiven ways of the internet. Compuserve had a culture that also got blown away by the hordes at the gate and eventually it's hyper-useful fora died out. Google became everyone's friend but then it was discovered that Google's product was not so much search results but you and me.

8 I'd never use telnet any more and I have totally replaced that with SSH and SCP with larger and larger keys.