Do our clock ticks when we are in Heaven or The New Jerusalem?

[LayHong_Loves_Christ]

Do our clock ticks when we are in Heaven or The New Jerusalem?
Are we still concerned about time? Today, tomorrow .............?
Or we do not care about time when we met our Lord?

 

[RandyPNW]

I think God created the world to continue as we presently experience it. The major difference is that God intended for us to transition into creatures that are finished with our initial task to fill the earth. That is, reproduction comes to an end, and we do tasks that transcend our preliminary development. Time will always be the measure of our enjoyment for all eternity.

 

[Mark Quayle]

Rev. 21:4 "...the old order of things will be done away with." is most likely more literal and radical than we can know.

Rev. 10:6 "...and time will be no more" may have something to do with the fact that God's economy came, in causal sequence, 'before' he "invented" time and the other measures we attribute to "reality". God "invented" reality. He did not happen upon an already existing reality or set of principles.

(Disclaimer: The following are thoughts only, though I find plenty Scripture to back them up. I can't teach them for FACT).

To me, it seems more likely that what we in this realm consider solid reality (such as time) is only a vapor, and that such thoughts as we might assess in this temporal realm to be incoherent to human thinking are the standard way of things in Heaven. For eg, with God, it makes sense —at least, to me it does— that for him to think is to do, and to speak is to make; God has no theories, he needs no options. Another eg, the New Jerusalem, the Holy City, Dwelling Place of God, actually BEING the Bride of Christ. US, the Redeemed, (currently under construction), WE the place Christ is preparing for us.

 

[Mark Quayle]

Rev. 21:4 "...the old order of things will be done away with." is most likely more literal and radical than we can know.

Rev. 10:6 "...and time will be no more" may have something to do with the fact that God's economy came, in causal sequence, 'before' he "invented" time and the other measures we attribute to "reality". God "invented" reality. He did not happen upon an already existing reality or set of principles.

(Disclaimer: The following are thoughts only, though I find plenty Scripture to back them up. I can't teach them for FACT).

To me, it seems more likely that what we in this realm consider solid reality (such as time) is only a vapor, and that such thoughts as we might assess in this temporal realm to be incoherent to human thinking are the standard way of things in Heaven. For eg, with God, it makes sense —at least, to me it does— that for him to think is to do, and to speak is to make; God has no theories, he needs no options. Another eg, the New Jerusalem, the Holy City, Dwelling Place of God, actually BEING the Bride of Christ. US, the Redeemed, (currently under construction), WE the place Christ is preparing for us.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Do our clock ticks when we are in Heaven or The New Jerusalem?
Are we still concerned about time? Today, tomorrow .............?
Or we do not care about time when we met our Lord?

Some folk claim that post resurrection humanity will keep Sabbath every seventh day so I guess they will be needing clocks to tick for that.

 

[LayHong_Loves_Christ]

IF the Saints are immortal, time has no meaning.

 

[eleos1954]

Do our clock ticks when we are in Heaven or The New Jerusalem?
Are we still concerned about time? Today, tomorrow .............?
Or we do not care about time when we met our Lord?

Time as we now know it is an illusion. Time as we know it does not exist unless there is an intelligent mind to comprehend it. Some scientists say time is a 4th dimension however that is theory and is not provable. Theoretical physicists believe math shows the possibilities of a fourth dimension, but there's no actual evidence.

Time is only a measurement of a period between events. To exist there must be events, these events do not have to be measured to exist. So technically something could exist without time, but not events.

When we go to be with the Lord we are in a eternal state (life without end) so ... time without end. There will be time of some sort but it will be used as originally intended as in God's original creation (before the fall). He originally created everything perfect and everything was very good.

“There is an appointed time for everything. And there is a time for every event under heaven” (Ecclesiastes 3:1 )

There will be time in regard to events (in heaven and eventually on the new earth) ... used organizationally in relation to events so to speak.

Currently we have limited time on planet earth (because we are subject to death) ... this will not be the case when we go to be with the Lord. We won't be subject to death so in that regard ... time won't matter. Time will be used for the divine purposes (events) God He has planned for us.

Really ... the bottom line is the only reason we are concerned about time now ... is because our time is limited by death.

Looking forward to all the wonderful events the Lord has in store for us.

 

[Bobber]

I think many on the subject of TIME when it comes to Eternity really wax philosophical with nothing to substantiate their assertions they've always believed. You keep hearing there is no Time in Eternity but people are just making that up as they've went along.

Simply put I think we all agree we will do things in Heaven. For the very reason that we'll do things means there was something we have to call time before we did something till after we've done it. Anything else would be nonsensical and outside the realm of rational thought. There there will be Time in heaven for there's sequence.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Rev 10:5 “And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer” (KJV)

 

[Lost4words]

As long as I know when it is breakfast, lunch and dinner time I don't mind!

 

[RileyG]

God exists in the eternal NOW.

So, no.

 

[RileyG]

IF the Saints are immortal, time has no meaning.

Correct.

 

[LayHong_Loves_Christ]

I know that physicists say there are proven 11th dimensions, and they use this to disprove God's existence.

 

[RileyG]

I know that physicists say there are proven 11th dimensions, and they use this to disprove God's existence.

If energy can’t be destroyed, where does it return to?

 

[LayHong_Loves_Christ]

Physicists say there is dark energy, if you sum up all energy in the universe it is Zero.
So they say zero or emptiness is the most powerful thing in the universe, everything that we think exist comes from emptiness. Therefore there is no God.

 

[RileyG]

Physicists say there is dark energy, if you sum up all energy in the universe it is Zero.
So they say zero or emptiness is the most powerful thing in the universe, everything that we think exist comes from emptiness. Therefore there is no God.

The fool says in their heart there is no God…

 

[Panthers]

Physicists say there is dark energy, if you sum up all energy in the universe it is Zero.
So they say zero or emptiness is the most powerful thing in the universe, everything that we think exist comes from emptiness. Therefore there is no God.

Dark energy comes from the eternal 1st and 2nd dimensions which form an eternal motherboard.
This eternal 2d motherboard provides the 3rd dimension which they are discovering as dark matter.
Exactly like a sim inside a computer trying to guess what the sticker on the cpu fan says.

There is no such thing as emptiness in terms of first and second dimensions.
both are equated to lines, and both extend forever.
yet they still have a beginning and end, first and last.
negative and positive, one and zero, Alpha and Omega.

 

[Panthers]

Do our clock ticks when we are in Heaven or The New Jerusalem?
Are we still concerned about time? Today, tomorrow .............?
Or we do not care about time when we met our Lord?

What does On Earth as it is in Heaven mean to you? Matthew 6:10
When the Holy King is cornorated, it will be day 8 on God's Calendar.
Then 1000 years will be Day 9.

The New Jerusalem is already founded on the Earth As such a bride has already been prepared.
It is not the old Jerusalem of course, for this is a new city, in what was once thought a new land.
For this city need no light... Revelation 21:23

In this city are 4 monuments to the 4 horsemen...

I looked, and there before me was a white horse!
Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown,
and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
Revelation 6:2

 

[Panthers]

 

[ViaCrucis]

Do our clock ticks when we are in Heaven or The New Jerusalem?
Are we still concerned about time? Today, tomorrow .............?
Or we do not care about time when we met our Lord?

Time is a tricky thing. Our perception of time here and now is based upon the current rules of how the universe functions. In the Standard Model of physics time basically comes down to motion--it's why things get really weird when we look at the math about approaching the speed of light, we get time dilation. If a person on a space ship reached a fraction of the speed of light and went on a trip, they might only experience a few weeks, a few months, or a few years (depending on the trip); but when they got back a sizeable amount of time may have gone by. It would be possible to take a space trip and return and see your great-great-great-great grandchildren grown up with hundreds of years having passed on earth.

And this also all relies on entropy, that everything in the universe is in moving toward equilibrium. A totally entropic universe would be one where nothing happens, every star has burned out, every planet decayed, every atom reduced to basically nothing. No light, no gravity, no energy, no matter--nothing. In such a universe, there wouldn't be any time--because nothing happens, nothing moves, it's just nothing.

So time is a real thing, it's part of the universe, it's something we experience as things happen, where there is motion.

In a universe without entropy, where there is no more death, where creation itself has been perfected and glorified--we wouldn't have entropy; but would we have time? Maybe. After all, there would be things--the heavens and the earth made new, with life--abundant, full, perfect life--and the experience of that full, everlasting, abundant life. But would it be time as we currently comprehend it? Nothing would decay, the affects of aging don't exist, would that register to us as time?

Perhaps because time depends on entropy, and without entropy, there would be no time; or perhaps our entire perception of what time is would be rendered meaningless?

In one sense, it all ends up being meaningless speculation, because we cannot even approach conceiving what that kind of life is like. I, you, all of us are limited to the experiences of being human here and now in a universe that is fallen, broken, and suffering under sin and death--we have no comprehension beyond this present mortal existence. And we can only peer, through a dim glass, to what God has promised when He makes all things new; revealed and brought to us through the resurrection of Christ, and the newness we have received now, through faith, as grace, as our union to Christ by the working of God through the Gospel; which is how we can see through a dim glass at all.

-CryptoLutheran