Pager Explosions Injure Thousands in Lebanon and Syria - Several Killed

[Nithavela]

Makes you one wonder what your phone contains, doesn't it?

 

[chevyontheriver]

Makes you one wonder what your phone contains, doesn't it?

It's packed with spyware for sure.

 

[wing2000]

That raises the possibility Israel was aware of a shipment of pagers heading to Hezbollah and managed to modify the pagers before delivery, he said.

IMO, that's the only plausable explanation.

Hezbollah blames Israel. OK. Just how does Israel blow up Hezbollah pagers?

Israel is the only enmey of Hezbollah with the technical and intelligence capabilities to carry out an operation like this. Hezbollah will likely feel forced to respond after suffering such an embarrassing security breach and attack.

 

[AlexB23]

Makes you one wonder what your phone contains, doesn't it?

Agreed. Who knows what is inside of our phones, though spyware may be a possibility. Phones should be X-ray scanned at purchase, so one knows that there are no internal parts that go boom.

Someone is gonna say that "it is not economical for Best Buy or phone stores to have a small x-ray machine" in about 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... 0...

 

[chevyontheriver]

Hezbollah will likely feel forced to respond after suffering such an embarrassing security breach and attack.

Right. Kill more people, most likely civilians, as long as they are Jews. Excellent retaliation. Totally justified. Maybe just bring in the suitcase nuke and level Jerusalem..

 

[Jamdoc]

Maybe. Somewhat implausible, but maybe. When you have the facts then let me know. As far as I'm concerned right now it's just Hezbollah blaming the usual suspect.

Israel always plays tactically opaque and goes silent after it does things, even air strikes. Even Hamas' leader being assassinated in Tehran, they don't come out and say "we did it"
You'll never get that from them.
Even though everyone knows Israel took him out.

and why's this an issue anyway? Mossad wounding thousands of Hezbollah operatives in targeted attacks all simultaneously makes Mossad bad... how?

 

[chevyontheriver]

Even though everyone knows Israel took him out.

Well, if 'everyone knows'....

 

[RileyG]

May they rest in peace.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

May they rest in peace.

May who rest in peace...Terrorists?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Right. Kill more people, most likely civilians, as long as they are Jews. Excellent retaliation. Totally justified. Maybe just bring in the suitcase nuke and level Jerusalem..

it rained in Syria today...it was Israel's fault...

 

[Vanellus]

Been following this story all day, this some James Bond, 007 stuff they got going on, and for as many explosions as took place there was little collateral damage, almost everyone hit was a Hezbollah member, the explosions small enough that people even just a few feet away from the explosion were unharmed (maybe ringing in their ear), and while a lot of Hezbollah members were injured or maimed taking them out of the equation as far as fighting against Israel for the next few weeks, months, maybe some permanently disabled.. relatively few deaths. 11 deaths out of thousands of explosions. Incredibly precise.

Seems like now would be the time for Israel to strike while communications are in disarray and many of their enemies laid up.

Hezbollah pagers: How did they explode and who is responsible?

A source close to Hezbollah told AFP that two of those killed were the sons of two Hezbollah MPs. They also said the daughter of a Hezbollah member was killed.

But we are seeing among them people who are old or people who are very young, like the child who unfortunately died... and there are some of them who are healthcare workers," the minister said.

I'm not surprised that supporters of Israel are portraying this indiscriminate terrorist attack as not all that bad. Israeli terrorism is called "audacious" (by the BBC) but Hezbollah/Hamas terrorism not so. How about calling them what they really are: cold blooded murder.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Hezbollah pagers: How did they explode and who is responsible?

I'm not surprised that supporters of Israel are portraying this indiscriminate terrorist attack as not all that bad. Israeli terrorism is called "audacious" (by the BBC) but Hezbollah/Hamas terrorism not so. How about calling them what they really are: cold blooded murder.

Hezbollah are waging a terror war against Israel.

Many of the Northern towns of Israel have had to be evacuated because Hezbollah have been firing hundreds of missiles at innocent Israeli civillians in those towns.

This is a war.

Israel specifically targeted combatants carrying military pagers.

Murder is the illegal taking of life in civil society. Quite different.

 

[Bob Crowley]

Mossad must have incredible intelligence capabilities. Modifying thousands of pagers sight and sound unseen would take time.

They either did in at the point of manufacture or in storage in a warehouse.

I'd be surprised if it was when they were in transit, although I suppose anything is possible.

Then they had to know the pagers were destined for Hezbollah operatives. Someone tipped them off.

 

[Goonie]

Mossad must have incredible intelligence capabilities. Modifying thousands of pagers sight and sound unseen would take time.

They either did in at the point of manufacture or in storage in a warehouse.

I'd be surprised if it was when they were in transit, although I suppose anything is possible.

Then they had to know the pagers were destined for Hezbollah operatives. Someone tipped them off.

Well the reason Hezbollah ordered the pagers is that they believed their cell phones were compromised.

They were right.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Mossad must have incredible intelligence capabilities. Modifying thousands of pagers sight and sound unseen would take time.

Time, yes, but not necessarily a lot of time. It could be as simple as opening the case, clipping or soldering a couple wires, and closing it back up. I could manage something like that in under 10 minutes a unit. For 3,000 units, that’d be 500 man-hours. And I am very slow. If you got a bunch of people who know what they were doing and made an assembly line of it, you could get that down to 1-2 minutes each. Call it 75 man-hours. A few 3-man teams could do that overnight. Honestly, fixing the outer packaging could very well have been the slowest part.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Time, yes, but not necessarily a lot of time. It could be as simple as opening the case, clipping or soldering a couple wires, and closing it back up. I could manage something like that in under 10 minutes a unit. For 3,000 units, that’d be 500 man-hours. And I am very slow. If you got a bunch of people who know what they were doing and made an assembly line of it, you could get that down to 1-2 minutes each. Call it 75 man-hours. A few 3-man teams could do that overnight. Honestly, fixing the outer packaging could very well have been the slowest part.

The toughest, most time consuming part of the whole process is finding a place that still sells pagers (being that it's not the 1990's anymore).

Next up, they're going to sabotage their Sony Walkman devices so when they use the 'Bass Boost' on a Hoobastank tape, it emits a poison.

 

[iluvatar5150]

The toughest, most time consuming part of the whole process is finding a place that still sells pagers (being that it's not the 1990's anymore).

Next up, they're going to sabotage their Sony Walkman devices so when they use the 'Bass Boost' on a Hoobastank tape, it emits a poison.

upvote for mentioning Hoobastank

 

[wing2000]

"In July, Reuters reported that Hezbollah had turned to pagers in recent months for communication after banning the use of cellphones from the battlefield out of concern that Israel could use them to locate and monitor fighters."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/17/hezbollah-pagers-batteries-explosion-israel-lebanon/

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/pagers-drones-how-hezbollah-aims-counter-israels-high-tech-surveillance-2024-07-09/

 

[wing2000]

The toughest, most time consuming part of the whole process is finding a place that still sells pagers (being that it's not the 1990's anymore).

Next up, they're going to sabotage their Sony Walkman devices so when they use the 'Bass Boost' on a Hoobastank tape, it emits a poison.

....still readily available apparently.

Gold Apollo exported 260,000 pagers from 2022 through last month, including almost 41,000 sets this year alone, according to data from the ministry. Most were exported to Europe and the United States, and there were no records of direct exports to Lebanon, the ministry said. This did not, however, rule out shipments through a third-party company.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/17/hezbollah-pagers-batteries-explosion-israel-lebanon/

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Hezbollah pagers: How did they explode and who is responsible?

I'm not surprised that supporters of Israel are portraying this indiscriminate terrorist attack as not all that bad. Israeli terrorism is called "audacious" (by the BBC) but Hezbollah/Hamas terrorism not so. How about calling them what they really are: cold blooded murder.

What Hamas did on 10/7 was indiscriminate...this was TARGETED at HEZBOLLAH TERRORISTS.