Catholics, evangelicals explore common ground rooted in shared ‘love of Jesus Christ’

[fide]

: ), so what say you fide? Am I outside the Canons of Trent and thus a heretic from the perspective of Rome?

Ask that about one possible charge, concerning one canon of the Council and your belief which you consider to be opposing the Council, please, and we'll see.

 

[Cosmic Charlie]

I dislike Evangelicals and find their Theology distasteful. I also think their Biblical interpretation is simplistic and irrelevant.

There I said it and I'm not sorry

 

[RileyG]

I dislike Evangelicals and find their Theology distasteful. I also think their Biblical interpretation is simplistic and irrelevant.

There I said it and I'm not sorry

I don’t disagree. Some of them have a weird obsession with America being part of the end times.

 

[Cosmic Charlie]

I have been warned that I am debating by the mods. Here is what they said.

" ● Members who do not truly share the core beliefs and teachings of a specific congregational forum may post in fellowship or ask questions, but they may not teach or debate within the forum.

Reason this is a violation: The forum you posted in was for believers of the Catholic faith. Your faith is listed as Calvanist, and were posting in the Catholic forum challenging the Catholic faith.

This is not an official warning. This is just a grace PM reminder of the rules."

The mods deleted some of my posts. I deleted the one remaining post. I will be withdrawing from the conversation.

To the mods: The word is "Calvinist" not "Calvanist."

Take it from a guy who's been mauled by the mods more then once:

Don't correct them, it just annoys them.

 

[Don Maurer]

Take it from a guy who's been mauled by the mods more then once:

Don't correct them, it just annoys them.

LOL, thanks Cosmic Charlie, I needed that and appreciate it.

By the way, I do not come to these forums much. However, in Semper Reformendi, challenges to the Reformed faith are permitted according to the rules of that thread. Just read the rules, it is stated outright. If someone starts a thread on "Is the Reformed faith under the Anathema's of Trent" I would be happy to join.

 

[fide]

LOL, thanks Cosmic Charlie, I needed that and appreciate it.

By the way, I do not come to these forums much. However, in Semper Reformendi, challenges to the Reformed faith are permitted according to the rules of that thread. Just read the rules, it is stated outright. If someone starts a thread on "Is the Reformed faith under the Anathema's of Trent" I would be happy to join.

Perhaps you could work with the rules here, and ask questions to help - truly help - you to understand the Catholic Faith more clearly.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Ask that about one possible charge, concerning one canon of the Council and your belief which you consider to be opposing the Council, please, and we'll see.

We already did that today concerning canon V and the extinguishing of every bit of free will. Waiting to see if he still rejects all human free will to keep with Reformed doctrine or accepts a bit of free will I keeping with reality.

 

[FaithT]

Yeah, probably best you forget it. They are probably uninformed.

Yeah I recall he seemed uninformed

 

[FaithT]

When was the last time any Catholic heard a homily or heard in a class anything talking down Protestants? It's been ages for me.

I don’t think I ever have. I once went to a Celebrate Recovery meeting at a Baptist church and somebody cut down Catholicism, so I pulled my Crucifix out of my shirt.

 

[FaithT]

Absolutely! They’re uninformed and don’t know that the church teaches.

One time during my MANY conversations with another Lutheran pastor, we were debating about science, (age of the earth, universe or something along those lines) and he said something about how the RCC would agree with him. I had to correct him and tell him we (at the time, they) don’t.

 

[Michie]

One time during my MANY conversations with another Lutheran pastor, we were debating about science, (age of the earth, universe or something along those lines) and he said something about how the RCC would agree with him. I had to correct him and tell him we (at the time, they) don’t.

What was his reaction??

 

[WarriorAngel]

I’ve definitely been “told” what the Church teaches and I say whoever taught you that, because it came from somewhere, definitely didn’t know what the Church teaches.

 

[WarriorAngel]

I really don't know.

I mean, many Evangelicals don't consider us Christians and consider the RCC the Harlot mentioned in Revelation 17. Of course, they are sadly mistaken.

The hyper zealots who don’t know what the Church teaches.

I forgot who wrote those crazy little cartoon booklets

 

[Michie]

The hyper zealots who don’t know what the Church teaches.

I forgot who wrote those crazy little cartoon booklets

Jack Chick.

Meet Jack Chick

For decades the cartoon tracts of Jack T. Chick have fascinated and horrified. Their pages contain the most extreme, paranoid conspiracy theories imaginable.

www.catholic.com

 

[FaithT]

What was his reaction??

IIRC, he didn’t say much.

 

[FaithT]

Jack Chick.

Meet Jack Chick

For decades the cartoon tracts of Jack T. Chick have fascinated and horrified. Their pages contain the most extreme, paranoid conspiracy theories imaginable.

www.catholic.com

I never heard of Jack Chick until several years ago

 

[FaithT]

What was his reaction??

I had lots of conversations with him, mostly about science and what the LCMS teaches. He was a nice guy, just misguided. My two main problems was their belief the earth/universe is 6,000 years old and they don’t believe in evolution.
Macroevolution?

 

[RileyG]

The hyper zealots who don’t know what the Church teaches.

I forgot who wrote those crazy little cartoon booklets

Jack Chick?

 

[chevyontheriver]

Jack Chick?

The hyperzealots once stuck Chick leaflets on all the cars in my church parking lot.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

This is good news. To what extent does this have traction among evangelicals?

Is this true for most or all Evangelicals? It reads OK to this Catholic but I have to ask how many Evangelicals it reads true for. I have never heard of any of the Evangelical signers before. To what extent do they speak for all Evangelicals?

There has been a divide among different evangelical groups regarding the RCC for some time. When I was going through my "... is, is, is the RCC Mystery, Babylon the Great?" phase, I came across a book in 1995 which gave me pause to reconsider. I bought that book, of course. (And I've listed it below).

From that time on in the mid-1990s, I had something to reflect upon by which to break the spell I was under while doing my initial research of Church History. And since then, I've become aware of other evangelicals who are more or less open to fellowshipping with those in the RCC as well.

As it turns out, it's usually the more conservative Calvinistic evangelicals who are antagonistic toward the RCC. Other sorts of evangelicals are less so, or sometimes not at all. I'd have to look up more info, but I'm guessing that even before 1995, there have been a number of evangelicals who have always been open to fellowshipping with the RCC (or with the Orthodox).

Geisler, Norman L., and Ralph E. MacKenzie. "Roman Catholics and Evangelicals." Agreements and Differences. Grand Rapids: Baker Academic (1995).​