Why do teenagers and young adults hate Christianity ?

[Desk trauma]

You are the one who questioned what I said. I simply stated what I had heard. You took issue with that saying that it ignores the facts. But you seem to be a bit short on facts.

A picture perfect place for an application of Hitchens razor: what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

 

[AV1611VET]

When I realized I no longer believed it had likely been a few years since I actually had believed. I was just slow on the uptake to figure it out.

Did this come before, or after, you embraced evolution?

 

[AV1611VET]

A picture perfect place for an application of Hitchens razor: what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

A lot of people get off the hook because of Hitchen's razor, don't they?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Of course, you don't. But it is not because of lack of evidence. There is tons of evidence for it.

You're right, Jesse, there is a reasonable amount of evidence. However, evidence has to be interpreted, and unfortunately today, there are a handful of competing praxes and epistemic positions by which to measure various biblically related evidences as being "sufficient."

For you and me, the biblically related evidences are sufficient, but for many others, they're aren't seen or felt to be sufficient due to there not being an overall, arbitrating meta-level praxis that everyone has to use.

..... the other problem, too, is that you and I know from the Biblical epistemology that the Holy Spirit----the Lord----has to also step into a person's heart along the way and help him or her accept, and maybe even understand, the biblically related evidences that we have.

Plus, life is very difficult for many, or even traumatizing, and like in the Parable of the Sower, Screwtape works overtime to take command of people's emotions and perceptions and disrupt their potential faith.

Anyway, I sympathize with your frustration, but there's a lot that goes into any one person arriving at faith in Jesus Christ.

 

[RileyG]

What a depressing thread.

 

[All Becomes New]

A picture perfect place for an application of Hitchens razor: what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

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[Larniavc]

Oh, it is far worse than that. I have heard that there have been more Christian martyrs in the last 100 years than in the 1900 years before that combined.

How do you know that they are killed for their Christianity as opposed to their behaviour?

 

[All Becomes New]

Are you just going to make stuff up about me? I clearly stated that my non-belief wasn't about defiance. When I realized I no longer believed it had likely been a few years since I actually had believed. I was just slow on the uptake to figure it out.

People tell themselves all kinds of false things.

 

[Larniavc]

That is a very insensitive thing to say when we are talking about people dying.

You'd be appalled at some of the posts saying much the same thing about gun deaths.

 

[All Becomes New]

How do you know that they are killed for their Christianity as opposed to their behaviour?

Kinda hard to fake that you claim to be a Christian. When it comes to the question of "who is saved?" Atheists are quick to cite things like "No true Scotsman." When it comes to the persecution of Christians, suddenly how they live makes a big difference.

 

[Hans Blaster]

People tell themselves all kinds of false things.

Why don't you explain me to me? That couldn't be condescending in the slightest...

 

[RileyG]

How do you know that they are killed for their Christianity as opposed to their behaviour?

Behavior? Care to elaborate? Such as worshipping in churches in Islamic countries?

 

[Armchair Apologist]

Reading that passage (and the rest of the chapter) for the first time several years ago was the closest I ever came to truly hating your religion and feeling hated by it.

Your response perfectly illustrates that which I am speaking does it not? These verses speak not only of you but the entirety of humanity with their fallen Adamic nature. Nothing personal, you are not being singled out.

This also begs the question, if the Bible is fabricated by a man, why does it speak so bleakly of the human race?

 

[RileyG]

You'd be appalled at some of the posts saying much the same thing about gun deaths.

I feel like in the last 25 years gun violence has only gotten worse….but I’m too young to actually know and someone can correct me

 

[Larniavc]

I'm not the one claiming to have the facts on my side.

You are. You make the claim about more Christians being killed in the last hundred years than the 1900 year prior to that. Unless you have pulled that number out of thin air you should be able to support it with some data.

If you've pulled it out of the air no one has any reason to believe such a wild and outlandish claim.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Yeah, raw numbers over rates makes things sound so much more dire.

... right, because we all know that where abuse, persecution, murder and martyrdom are concerned, statistical comparisons and rates of change are far more important than the actual individuals affected by this or that "social phenomenon," (like Communism or Islam).

 

[RileyG]

... right, because we all know that where abuse, persecution, murder and martyrdom are concerned, statistical comparisons and rates of change are far more important than the actual individuals affected by this or that "social phenomenon," (like Communism or Islam).

Let’s not forget the hundreds of thousands of Orthodox Christians that were slaughtered under the Soviet Union….but they have been forgotten through time….

 

[Desk trauma]

... right, because we all know that where abuse, persecution, murder and martyrdom are concerned, statistical comparisons and rates of change are far more important than the actual individuals affected by this or that "social phenomenon," (like Communism or Islam).

Yeah. It’s like crime, all about the feels never mind if there’s less of it than there used to be.

 

[Larniavc]

Kinda hard to fake that you claim to be a Christian. When it comes to the question of "who is saved?" Atheists are quick to cite things like "No true Scotsman." When it comes to the persecution of Christians, suddenly how they live makes a big difference.

What I meant was were these people killed solely because of their belief in salvation through Jesus Christ or because of what they were doing? Were they killed because of what they did or because of what they are?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Mocking happens. It happened to me when I played D&D and read Sci-Fi books in Elementary School.

The only way to change it is to ignore the mocking and to keep doing what you are doing and it may become the new cultural norm.

... the strange thing for me was that I was mocked by..........................fellow D&D players when I played in junior high and high school. Of course, that's what I get for insisting on playing a Paladin character among other players who insisted on playing Thief and Assassin class characters.

It was the Best of times; it was the Motliest of times.