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I’m voting for Trump because he’s a white man.

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Who's doing this screaming or crying? Just use contraception and bang goes the std and unwanted pregnancy. I myself have had many sexual encounters with many people over the years with ne'er an std or unwanted pregnancy in sight.
Exactly what I meant ;)
 
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And people don't like being controlled by others. What you or I might consider a passion that needs to be disciplined will not be seen that way by others. Much of the culture war seems like paternalism. It infantalizes people, and in this country, freedom to live as one chooses is a big priority on both sides of the divide.
Correct, but if they get harmed by their own Echols they act like their victims. They’re not.
 
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Correct, but if they get harmed by their own Echols they act like their victims. They’re not.
Of course they're not. But if people suggest that what someone else does in the privacy of their own bedroom is wrong then there'll be some pushback.
 
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Of course they're not. But if people suggest that what someone else does in the privacy of their own bedroom is wrong then there'll be some pushback.
Exactly! They should keep what happens in the bedroom private. No one is saying otherwise.
 
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Although I completely agree, many people will argue there’s nothing wrong with pre marital sex with one or many partners as long as it’s consensual.

People don’t like controlling their passions.

It’s a fact of life.
Yep, but that stuff belongs in the bedroom between two consenting adults each over 18, and not to be paraded in front of children, cos that is perverted. Also, one partner is safer than two or more.
 
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Okay. You said people don’t like being controlled by others.

I know being terse is kind of your forte, and I can appreciate that, but I said more than that. There was a whole context.
 
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I know being terse is kind of your forte, and I can appreciate that, but I said more than that. There was a whole context.
I understand. You don't, then, want to argue about laws, but where to draw the line.
 
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Of course they're not. But if people suggest that what someone else does in the privacy of their own bedroom is wrong then there'll be some pushback.

As their should be....it's none of anyone's business.

It does become everyone's business when they begin teaching it to children in public schools. Gender theory can't defend itself on evidence the way the theory of evolution did during the Scopes Monkey trial. Instead....they make baseless moral arguments that have little to no relationship to the facts. They can moralize to children all they want to at home....but the idea that they should moralize to everyone's child at school is not just hypocritical, it's damaging when they hide it from parents.
 
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I understand. You don't, then, want to argue about laws, but where to draw the line.
Yeah, maybe so. I think, in this heterogeneous society, there are areas where the wisest move is to give people a certain amount of leeway (a margin of freedom) even though what they choose might not be ideal, or even good.
 
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You shouldn't do things just because someone else does them. Furthermore, I would say you shouldn't vote for Trump no matter what color he might be. He's not a good president regardless of his accidental qualities.
He was a good president.
 
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Until.COVID came we were all.doing better under him. Inflation was between 1-2%. Food and gas were way cheaper. The middle east wasn't on fire and Russia wasn't attacking people. Our border was in a better spot.

What do we have under Biden? Record inflation, Record illegals coming across rhe border, rhe middle east is a mess.and Russia attacked their neighbors.

Despite rhe fact that people.do t line Trump.as a person, he was a.good president.
 
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Until.COVID came we were all.doing better under him. Inflation was between 1-2%. Food and gas were way cheaper. The middle east wasn't on fire and Russia wasn't attacking people. Our border was in a better spot.

What do we have under Biden? Record inflation, Record illegals coming across rhe border, rhe middle east is a mess.and Russia attacked their neighbors.

Despite rhe fact that people.do t line Trump.as a person, he was a.good president.

Is something wrong with your 't' key?

All I know is Trump told me to inject disinfectant for my COVID. Now I'm addicted to disinfectant. Thanks, Trump!
 
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Correct, but if they get harmed by their own Echols they act like their victims. They’re not.
Am I wrong, or are you saying that “bad things” happening to people because people exercise their free-will is how it should oughta be?

I believe that we human beings are obligated to help as much as is possible, other people using their free-will in ways that are a detriment to themselves and society-as-a-whole.
 
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Exactly! They should keep what happens in the bedroom private. No one is saying otherwise.
We shouldn’t educate children to the realities of the right of homosexual persons (and other sexual-minorities), to exist and have the same legal standing as heterosexual people?

Why would that be?
 
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Am I wrong, or are you saying that “bad things” happening to people because people exercise their free-will is how it should oughta be?

I believe that we human beings are obligated to help as much as is possible, other people using their free-will in ways that are a detriment to themselves and society-as-a-whole.
No. I’m stating if bad things happen to people because they refuse to take precautions, it’s their own fault.

Yes, we should help people.
 
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We shouldn’t educate children to the realities of the right of homosexual persons (and other sexual-minorities), to exist and have the same legal standing as heterosexual people?

Why would that be?
No. Nothing like that? Only what happens in the bedroom should remain private.

It still remains controversial. That’s just how it is.
 
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Yep, but that stuff belongs in the bedroom between two consenting adults each over 18, and not to be paraded in front of children, cos that is perverted. Also, one partner is safer than two or more.
Well said.
 
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We shouldn’t educate children to the realities of the right of homosexual persons (and other sexual-minorities), to exist and have the same legal standing as heterosexual people?

Why would that be?
The right is always accused of hysteria for suggesting alternative lifestyles people are groomers or go after children yet I see it being constantly advocated to teach such things to children.
Like Pink Floyd said "Leave those kids alone."
 
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