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Women should remain silent in the churches.

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Bla bla bla. The Levite priesthood offered the daily sacrifice. Like I said, the daily sacrifice has continued to be offered by the Apostles and in the Tradition of the Apostles. Challenge this at your own peril.
Where do we find the apostles offering daily sacrifices in the same way as the Levitical priesthood? Certainly the Apostle Paul wrote to the Christians in Rome:

“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, [which is] your reasonable service.” (Ro 12:1 NKJV)

However, I cannot think of a single example of an apostle offering an animal sacrifice like the Levitical priesthood.
 
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Where do we find the apostles offering daily sacrifices in the same way as the Levitical priesthood? Certainly the Apostle Paul wrote to the Christians in Rome:

“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, [which is] your reasonable service.” (Ro 12:1 NKJV)

However, I cannot think of a single example of an apostle offering an animal sacrifice like the Levitical priesthood.

WhErE iS tHe sAcRiFicE?

“This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.”


Amazing brother, amazing.

This is the reason women should not be preaching in the churches.
 
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WhErE iS tHe sAcRiFicE?

“This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.”


Amazing brother, amazing.

This is the reason women should not be preaching in the churches.
Yes, "Do this in remembrance of Me," not "as a sacrifice." Indeed, Hebrews makes clear that the sacrifice of Jesus was a once for all event, not one which is repeatable:

“26 He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, 28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.” (Heb 9:26-28 NKJV)

Hebrews does mention a sacrifice Christians are to offer:

“Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of [our] lips, giving thanks to His name.” (Heb 13:15 NKJV)

The reason for women not preaching is that God in His Word says they should not do so.
 
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My God you are retarded, excuse the language.

Paul said the blood of bulls and goats, that which the Levites were offering, have no power to remitt sin.

It wasn't even a sacrifice.

It was a foreshadow.

Now if you can't put two and two together at this point then I just feel sorry for you.

God Bless.
I don't think calling somebody "retarded" is necessary. Do you believe that all who believe as I do, that the Lord's Supper is a remembrance, and not a sacrifice, are similarly retarded? Yes, of course the blood of bulls and goats cannot remit sin - the only thing which can do that is the blood of Jesus which He shed on the cross. The Old Testament sacrifices were types and shadows, as Hebrews shows. But none of that shows that the Lord's Supper was intended as a repeated sacrifice. If saying that makes me even more retarded in your view, so be it.
 
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I don't think calling somebody "retarded" is necessary. Do you believe that all who believe as I do, that the Lord's Supper is a remembrance, and not a sacrifice, are similarly retarded? Yes, of course the blood of bulls and goats cannot remit sin - the only thing which can do that is the blood of Jesus which He said on the cross. The Old Testament sacrifices were types and shadows, as Hebrews shows. But none of that shows that the Lord's Supper was intended as a repeated sacrifice. If saying that makes me even more retarded in your view, so be it.

What were the Levites, an all male priesthood, doing before Christ? They were FORESHADOWING Him.

What are the Apostles doing, in the Tradition of the Apostles (read about it)? They are REMEMBERING Him.

Get a grip man.

Sorry for the offence. But you should be able to see what is implied.
 
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You can read it in the sense of The Sacrifice, served daily, either in foreshadowing or remembering.

The prophecy from the angels is regarding the daily sacrifice. And I don't think they are talking about the blood of bulls and goats.
 
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I think you need to apologize. Usually, responses like these are not an isolated event. Where there's smoke there's fire. Response inexcusable. I think you told the poster to get a grip. I think that applies to you.
Who says it doesn't.

Get a grip brother ;)

God Bless.
 
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Only if we ignore the other elephant in the room, a random guy being struck down by His Light on the road to Damascus

And lo and behold, a wonderful non conformist!

That was the Conversion of Paul. His appointment to Apostleship happened later, perhaps here:

1 Now in the church at Antioch there were prophets and teachers: Barnabas, Simeon called Niger, Lucius of Cyrene, Manaen (who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch) and Saul. 2 While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.” 3 So after they had fasted and prayed, they placed their hands on them and sent them off.
 
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That was the Conversion of Paul. His appointment to Apostleship happened later, perhaps here:
Paul's lot was set the moment of his Command from Jesus, regardless of what "the others" thought or did:

Acts 26:
18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
 
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Bla bla bla. The Levite priesthood offered the daily sacrifice. Like I said, the daily sacrifice has continued to be offered by the Apostles and in the Tradition of the Apostles. Challenge this at your own peril.

Have you read the Epistle to the Hebrews?

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Paul's lot was set the moment of his Command from Jesus, regardless of what "the others" thought or did:

Acts 26:
18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

Did you miss the part where he was blind after this encounter, and needed to have the laying of hands twice before he was sent on a mission?
 
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Did you read what I said about foreshadowing and remembering?

The Most Holy Eucharist isn't a sacrifice, and it's not offered up. It's the Sacrifice, it's Jesus Christ, which is not offered up from men upward; but is given downward from God to mere sinners--you and me.

So talking about a daily sacrifice continuing is, simply put, false. It's, at best, bad theology. In the Sacraments we don't go up to meet God, God comes down to meet us.

The Levitical priesthood is done and over. It doesn't exist. Its relevance ended when Christ our God cried out "It is finished" on His Holy Cross.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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the laying of hands twice before he was sent on a mission?
You think that somehow instituted a necessary continuing ritual of some sort?

What that means will vary,

and in some cases it's ignorant and done for the sole purposes of system power mongering
 
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The Most Holy Eucharist isn't a sacrifice, and it's not offered up. It's the Sacrifice, it's Jesus Christ, which is not offered up from men upward; but is given downward from God to mere sinners--you and me.

So talking about a daily sacrifice continuing is, simply put, false. It's, at best, bad theology. In the Sacraments we don't go up to meet God, God comes down to meet us.

The Levitical priesthood is done and over. It doesn't exist. Its relevance ended when Christ our God cried out "It is finished" on His Holy Cross.

-CryptoLutheran
Maybe this will give you a clue.

 
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You think that somehow instituted a necessary continuing ritual of some sort?

What that means will vary,

and in some cases it's ignorant and done for the sole purposes of system power mongering

It was the church in Antioch that anointed Paul in his mission. You can see that authority was passed down through lot and then through the laying of hands. Paul did not wake up one day and decided to become an apostle. You would have to use some other example for that.
 
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It was the church in Antioch that anointed Paul in his mission. You can see that authority was passed down through lot and then through the laying of hands. Paul did not wake up one day and decided to become an apostle. You would have to use some other example for that.
Paul freewheeled it by his own statements. Gal. 1:16, Gal. 2:6

God in Christ didn't show up to make a business organization committed to condemning anyone not belonging
 
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Paul freewheeled it by his own statements. Gal. 1:16, Gal. 2:6

God in Christ didn't show up to make a business organization committed to condemning anyone not belonging

Doesn't look like free wheeling to me.

13 “Lord,” Ananias answered, “I have heard many reports about this man and all the harm he has done to your holy people in Jerusalem. 14 And he has come here with authority from the chief priests to arrest all who call on your name.”

15 But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel. 16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.”

17 Then Ananias went to the house and entered it. Placing his hands on Saul, he said, “Brother Saul, the Lord—Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you were coming here—has sent me so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit.” 18 Immediately, something like scales fell from Saul’s eyes, and he could see again. He got up and was baptized, 19 and after taking some food, he regained his strength.
 
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