Why is there so much hatred and perverted pornography and over stimulating garbage on the internet ?

[Ace777]

replace the need to human interaction and allow people to detach from real life.

yes this has been a concern for people even at the beginning of computers. From the beginning they wanted to throw the computer away and go back to the way it was before.

 

[Astrid]

Whoever coined that thought they were a lot smarter than they are. that is a blatantly false generalization with a narrow interpretation.

There's the same basic saying in Chinese and English.

The basic concept is sound or it would not have stuck.
Or make those to whom it applies so uncomfortable.

 

[Astrid]

Who is Cassandra? You took issue with the scripture?

Of course I accept nothing in the prediction, nor
your "wake up" seamlessly blended in as if it's scripture.

A bit of classic education or 30 sec with wiki would inform you about Cassandra.

 

[Astrid]

Why should we honor God? Good question because it look like He has an ego if He wants us to worship Him. But that is not the case. He wants us in line and in harmony with Him. The bottom line is you are either for Him or against Him. There is no fence sitting allowed and that is where people wants to be.

As powerful as God is, it makes no sense at all to be fighting against Him. Just look at the natural disasters, earthquakes, tornadoes, fires, floods and so on. Do you really think that God is not powerful enough to control that sort of thing? Do you think He well not shake people if He gets mad at them?

We are told: "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom",

Proverbs 9 …9 Instruct a wise man, and he will be wiser still; teach a righteous man, and he will increase his learning. 10The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. 11For through wisdom your days will be multiplied, and years will be added to your life.…

So binary theists always are.
Good evil
Black white.

I not for or against God. Or batboy or bigfoot

 

[Ace777]

I not for or against God.

What God are you not for or against?

 

[Astrid]

But don’t you see?

1 Timothy 2:15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

These women have sex for reason other than producing Soldiers for Christ. They are bound for Hell so you don’t have to worry about them.

Hard to satirize

 

[stevevw]

yes this has been a concern for people even at the beginning of computers. From the beginning they wanted to throw the computer away and go back to the way it was before.

I think its tech generally as well. At the same time iPhones came along and that put into everyones hands a independent device to access the web. At the same time at least for young adults there is no restriction on them getting those devices. In fact its sort of encouraged. I remember the issues with iphones in schools and how this got out of hand and some have restricted them.

But these devices and access to online have become the new teachers of young people in what life is about, what is of value and most of the time its crap which then only spills out into real life behaviour. Parents don't seem to care and just allow young people to do whatever thinking its ok as it makes them more independent and would be wrong to deny them.

 

[Ace777]

I remember the issues with iphones in schools

They use to have penny loafer shoes but I would put a dime in them. People would ask me about that and I said so I had a dime to call my mom to come a pick me up. We did not use to be in constant contact with people the way we are now. For some people you almost need a crow bar to pry that phone out of their hand. For me I would love to leave it in the bedroom and ignore it all day. I am getting notifications on my watch for this forum and I need to disable that.

 

[stevevw]

They use to have penny loafer shoes but I would put a dime in them. People would ask me about that and I said so I had a dime to call my mom to come a pick me up. We did not use to be in constant contact with people the way we are now. For some people you almost need a crow bar to pry that phone out of their hand. For me I would love to leave it in the bedroom and ignore it all day. I am getting notifications on my watch for this forum and I need to disable that.

I had a mobile for work but I often ignored it and would get into trouble lol. I was reluctant to get a phone but my kids convinced me for safety reasons which I think is ok. But having has one for aaroun a decade I still tend to ignore it. I may go to my phone and see some message from my daughter thats been there for a week or so lol.

We not only didn't have phones at school but you were lucky to get picked up. Often it was a two bus or long walk and bus or a really long walk home. Which I might say was enjoyable because we would be mucking around with friends getting up to mischieft lol.

I think that is what is missing but thats not just about phones but also a culture in that people don't feel safe and secure in allowing kids to roam the streets today.

 

[Ace777]

really long walk home

I had to walk about three miles back and forth to school. But I did a lot of walking back then.

 

[Niels]

Yeah we are.

Characteristics of kingdom Animalia:

1. They can move and so have locomotion.
2. They lack a cell wall and plastids.
3. They are heterotrophic since they cannot prepare their own food.
4. They have excretory and sensory organs, as well as a neurological system.
5. Reproduction is generally sexual.
6. Example: Pleurobrachia, Hookworm, apple snails, turtles, peacocks, and humans.

When people say that we are not animals, they are usually drawing a distinction between humans and non-human animals. Not suggesting that we are mineral or vegetable.

Take, for instance, literary critic Kenneth Burke's definition of human beings:

"Man is the symbol-using (symbol-making, symbol-misusing) animal, inventor of the negative (or moralized by the negative), separated from his natural condition by instruments of his own making, goaded by the spirit of hierarchy (or moved by the sense of order), and rotten with perfection."

We are not non-human animals. Stephen Hawking spoke of animals this way, for instance, in the clips that Pink Floyd used in their song Keep Talking:

God created and spoke. Forming us from the dust of the Earth. Made in his image with the ability to likewise speak and create. Not merely animal, but people. None of which contradicts our biological classification in the kingdom of animalia.

 

[Larniavc]

Made in his image with the ability to likewise speak and create.

Other animals can speak and create. I don't think you have thought this through to it's logical conclusion.

 

[Niels]

Other animals can speak and create. I don't think you have thought this through to it's logical conclusion.

Depends on how you define speak and create. How many other animals meet Kenneth Burke's definition of human?

 

[Larniavc]

How many other animals meet Kenneth Burke's definition of human?

Dunno. Is he a biologist?

 

[Niels]

Dunno. Is he a biologist?

The answer you seek was in my post, along with a link to a Wikipedia page about his definition. Even if you didn't click on the link and merely read my reply, you would see that there's nothing that contradicts our biology. If you think there is, I'm open to hearing it.

All humans are animals, but not all animals are humans. This isn't difficult.

Out of curiosity, if somebody ran up to you for help saying that they were bitten by an animal, to what extent would you wonder whether they were bitten by a human being?

 

[Niels]

Regarding biology, or more specifically anthropology, spoken language was probably around at least as long as the human larynx had distended and the hyoid bone supported speech. It's harder to say how long other forms of human language may have existed. Artwork can be considered evidence for human language that predates writing etched in stone. Much more was probably written or drawn on wood, leaves, and other organic material that's prone to decay.

People don't usually "have sex like animals" as civilization rarely condones engaging in the sexual behaviors of non-human animals. If you walked into a store and tried to have sex like a duck, for instance, you'd be arrested. Instead, most people have sex like humans. With the customs, consent, and romanticism that often comes with it.

Returning to the topic, there isn't much on the internet that wasn't around before it. Social media and its various echo chambers may have exacerbated existing problems, but there's nothing new about hatred, porn, overstimulating garbage, etc. One nice thing about the internet, as in real life, is that there is no shortage of better things to do. If you don't like what you see online, take your clicks and or your body somewhere else.

 

[Larniavc]

you would see that there's nothing that contradicts our biology. If you think there is, I'm open to hearing it.

The first thing that springs to mind is that humans existed prior to the invention of symbolism. Let's start with that?

All humans are animals, but not all animals are humans. This isn't difficult.

To be fare the post I was replying to was as follows. I never argued that that was not the case.

MassimoTheChristian said:
Humans aren't animals that's a lame excuse to excuse evil behavior.

Out of curiosity, if somebody ran up to you for help saying that they were bitten by an animal, to what extent would you wonder whether they were bitten by a human being?

Actually because of my love of zombie films the first thing that would irreverently enter my head would be "is a human bite". Granted most people would not think like that and I do see the point that you are making but my reply would be bet that stating that one had been bitten by an animal one could NOT rule out a human bite.

Full disclosure I'm not terribly impressed by philosophers beyond Descartes and Popper.

 

[Larniavc]

People don't usually "have sex like animals" as civilization rarely condones engaging in the sexual behaviors of non-human animals. If you walked into a store and tried to have sex like a duck, for instance, you'd be arrested. Instead, most people have sex like humans. With the customs, consent, and romanticism that often comes with it.

What the hell are you talking about?

 

[Niels]

The first thing that springs to mind is that humans existed prior to the invention of symbolism. Let's start with that?

That's a tough call. I wouldn't necessarily consider a population of hominids that lacked symbolic reasoning to be human. There's a reason why we are called homo sapiens after all. My understanding is that sapiens implies a capacity for symbolic reasoning and presumably language. Before that is even more speculative.

To be fare the post I was replying to was as follows. I never argued that that was not the case.

MassimoTheChristian said:
Humans aren't animals that's a lame excuse to excuse evil behavior.

While I agree with you that humans are animals, I also agree that it is a "lame excuse" for evil behavior. We aren't non-human animals, after all. That's "what the hell" I was talking about in the other post which wasn't specifically addressed to you.

For what it's worth, I don't think non-human animals are capable of evil. They don't consider the consequences of their actions. At least not to the extend that most people are capable of.

Actually because of my love of zombie films the first thing that would irreverently enter my head would be "is a human bite". Granted most people would not think like that and I do see the point that you are making but my reply would be bet that stating that one had been bitten by an animal one could NOT rule out a human bite.

I wouldn't entirely rule it out either, "human bites human" would be far from my mind. At least until the zombie apocalypse.

Full disclosure I'm not terribly impressed by philosophers beyond Descartes and Popper.

Fair enough.

 

[Ace777]

humans existed prior to the invention of symbolism.

There are Rabbi that teach God used the Hebrew Language to create the Universe Just like the Bible says.