JD Vance is really unpopular and "dragging Trump down"

[FreeinChrist]

https://www.salon.com/2024/07/24/making-history-in-the-completely-way-jd-vance-is-really-unpopular-and-dragging-down/

Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, is making history as Donald Trump's 2024 running mate, but not in the way that the Trump campaign had hoped. According to a CNN survey taken after the Republican National Convention, Vance has an approval rating of -6 points, making him the first vice presidential nominee to enter the general election with a negative rating since 1980.​

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The average rating for a running mate after a party convention has been +19 points.​

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"Frankly, I don't really understand the pick, and apparently neither do the American voters," CNN data analyst Harry Enten said on Tuesday's OutFront with Erin Burnett. Vance, he said, is "dragging Trump down."...​

With Trump struggling to appeal to moderate women, the former president may rue choosing a man who ran for Senate on a hardline anti-abortion stance, criticized childcare subsidies as "class war against normal people" and suggested that married women would be selfish for divorcing their abusive husbands, saying in 2021 that "one of the great tricks that the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace" was "making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear.”​

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Trump could have done better.

 

[iluvatar5150]

https://www.salon.com/2024/07/24/making-history-in-the-completely-way-jd-vance-is-really-unpopular-and-dragging-down/

Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, is making history as Donald Trump's 2024 running mate, but not in the way that the Trump campaign had hoped. According to a CNN survey taken after the Republican National Convention, Vance has an approval rating of -6 points, making him the first vice presidential nominee to enter the general election with a negative rating since 1980.​

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The average rating for a running mate after a party convention has been +19 points.​

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"Frankly, I don't really understand the pick, and apparently neither do the American voters," CNN data analyst Harry Enten said on Tuesday's OutFront with Erin Burnett. Vance, he said, is "dragging Trump down."...​

With Trump struggling to appeal to moderate women, the former president may rue choosing a man who ran for Senate on a hardline anti-abortion stance, criticized childcare subsidies as "class war against normal people" and suggested that married women would be selfish for divorcing their abusive husbands, saying in 2021 that "one of the great tricks that the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace" was "making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear.”​

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Trump could have done better.

I kind of like the idea of Vance as an example of identity politics:

Vance, who never held political office before 2023 but won fame from his "Hillbilly Elegy" memoir, has less government experience than former California Attorney General and U.S. Senator Kamala Harris, despite the oft-repeated GOP claim that the latter was an unqualified "DEI hire" by Biden due to being a Black and Indian-American woman.

He's mainly a media figure, with almost no government experience, selected to shore up support among a specific demographic. I don't see how his selection is any more worthy than Harris' was in 2020, unless these sorts of hires are only okay when it's white men getting the job.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I would think his favoribility scores are subject to change (could be for the better or worse as time goes on)

Per Newsweek:

General polling on Vance shows a mixed reaction to him nationwide. An Economist/YouGov poll, carried out between July 13 and July 16—Trump announced Vance would be his pick on July 15—found that 22 percent of 1,582 U.S. adults viewed him favorably, while 31 percent viewed him unfavorably and 48 percent had no opinion about him. (36 percent said they had never heard of him)

It's easy for there to be a net negative when you have someone who's a virtual unknown outside of the rust belt. (And who a certain percentage are going to dislike by default simply because they know he's the guy Trump picked)

As that half of people who "had no opinion of him" start falling into one of the other two categories, the numbers could swing drastically (but in which direction remains to be seen)

 

[Pommer]

https://www.salon.com/2024/07/24/making-history-in-the-completely-way-jd-vance-is-really-unpopular-and-dragging-down/

Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, is making history as Donald Trump's 2024 running mate, but not in the way that the Trump campaign had hoped. According to a CNN survey taken after the Republican National Convention, Vance has an approval rating of -6 points, making him the first vice presidential nominee to enter the general election with a negative rating since 1980.​

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The average rating for a running mate after a party convention has been +19 points.​

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"Frankly, I don't really understand the pick, and apparently neither do the American voters," CNN data analyst Harry Enten said on Tuesday's OutFront with Erin Burnett. Vance, he said, is "dragging Trump down."...​

With Trump struggling to appeal to moderate women, the former president may rue choosing a man who ran for Senate on a hardline anti-abortion stance, criticized childcare subsidies as "class war against normal people" and suggested that married women would be selfish for divorcing their abusive husbands, saying in 2021 that "one of the great tricks that the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace" was "making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear.”​

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Trump could have done better.

The Best People™️

 

[Ana the Ist]

The left isn't shooting Trump. That was one oddball who is a Registered Republican.

Trump gunman Thomas Crooks likely had a Gab account that he used to ‘support’ President Biden, site’s CEO says

“While the account made very few posts on the site, the majority of them were in support of President Biden,” Gab CEO Andrew Torba said Wednesday.

nypost.com

 

[iluvatar5150]

How much government experience did Trump have before he was elected?

I don't think that makes the case you think it does, but to each his own.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Trump gunman Thomas Crooks likely had a Gab account that he used to ‘support’ President Biden, site’s CEO says

“While the account made very few posts on the site, the majority of them were in support of President Biden,” Gab CEO Andrew Torba said Wednesday.

nypost.com

He made a contribution of what - $17?
He is still a registered Republican and a lone wolf

Claiming that "the left" is shooting at Trump is really wrong.

 

[Yttrium]

Vance has the one thing that Trump most desires in his VP.

He has become a Trump sycophant.

 

[Ana the Ist]

He made a contribution of what - $17?
He is still a registered Republican and a lone wolf

Claiming that "the left" is shooting at Trump is really wrong.

Honestly, pretend that you're running for president and despite whatever your actual politics are....the left is shooting at you because you once disagreed with a trans person....

Your choices for VP are...

1. Michelle Obama, for whatever reason....she's down to clown.

2. The clone of Hitler's grandson...and he's a spitting image.

Only one of those choices is making the left rethink assassination attempts.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Really? Who else on the left is shooting bullets at Trump?

Crooks....read the article, or look it up yourself.

-loves open borders
-loves covid lock-downs
-loves Biden’s use of executive privilege
-hates Trump and argues with his supporters (does this one feel familiar?)

What more do you want?

 

[Postvieww]

The left isn't shooting Trump. That was one oddball who is a Registered Republican.

J.D. Vance isn't going to bring much to the campaign as in drawing votes

The left was and is in charge of the agency with the mission of protecting Trump and they failed in a colossal way.

 

[FreeinChrist]

That is not "the left" is shoo

The left was and is in charge of the agency with the mission of protecting Trump and they failed in a colossal way.

That is not "the left" shooting at Trump. The shooter was a lone wolf. If the Secret Service failed in any way, that is not "the left"

 

[ThatRobGuy]

How much government experience did Trump have before he was elected?

One thing trump taught me: I'll never again vote for a career politician in a presidential election.

I don't know if that's a sound strategy in a blanket sense...

While being "an outsider" can bring in a different perspective... That, alone, isn't necessarily a credential.

If anything, "outsider" is just one attribute to consider among many.

For instance AOC was an outsider and certainly hasn't been a "career politician", yet I think it's safe to assume you'd vote for a Tom Cotton or a Ted Cruz over her, correct?

 

[FreeinChrist]

https://www.salon.com/2024/07/24/making-history-in-the-completely-way-jd-vance-is-really-unpopular-and-dragging-down/

Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, is making history as Donald Trump's 2024 running mate, but not in the way that the Trump campaign had hoped. According to a CNN survey taken after the Republican National Convention, Vance has an approval rating of -6 points, making him the first vice presidential nominee to enter the general election with a negative rating since 1980.​

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The average rating for a running mate after a party convention has been +19 points.​

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"Frankly, I don't really understand the pick, and apparently neither do the American voters," CNN data analyst Harry Enten said on Tuesday's OutFront with Erin Burnett. Vance, he said, is "dragging Trump down."...​

With Trump struggling to appeal to moderate women, the former president may rue choosing a man who ran for Senate on a hardline anti-abortion stance, criticized childcare subsidies as "class war against normal people" and suggested that married women would be selfish for divorcing their abusive husbands, saying in 2021 that "one of the great tricks that the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace" was "making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear.”​

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Trump could have done better.

Let's get back to the topic.

 

[wing2000]

It seems some would rather not discuss JD Vance.

 

[iluvatar5150]

AOC has turned career politician.

By that standard, so has Trump. She’s only been in office 5 years, whereas he was in office for 4. They’ve each run 3 campaigns, though his have been longer and more drawn out.

 

[Whyayeman]

This is the man under discussion:

On social issues, Vance has promoted strongly conservative policies, opposing abortion, same-sex marriage, and gun control, and has proposed banning transgender healthcare for minors. He differs from mainstream Republican views on market interventions, taxes, the minimum wage, unionization, tariffs, and antitrust policy,[3][4][5][6] while opposing American military aid to Ukraine. [Wikipedia]​

He is a dream candidate for the Conservatives. He is forty years old (half Trump's age), has an honourable military record and has written a book that sold well. He has been a Senator for less than a year.

 

[wing2000]

I predict Trump will "fire" Vance.

 

[FreeinChrist]

It seems some would rather not discuss JD Vance.

There is something about J.D. Vance that makes me think of George Santos.
He was born and raised in Middleton, Ohio, which is not in Appalachia. It's flat. Maybe is grandparents lived in Appalachia? He was born James Donald Bowman. When his parents divorced, his middle name was changed from Donald to David. When his mother remarried, he took on his stepfather's name and was James Hamel. He kept that through his time in the Marines.
When he got married, he changed his name to Vance.

He went from criticizing Trump as a never-Trumper, so praising him.

Then there is Vance's short term charity, Our Ohio Renewal.

Vance's anti-drug charity enlisted doctor echoing Big Pharma

When bestselling author JD Vance founded “Our Ohio Renewal” a day after the 2016 presidential election, he promoted the charity as a vehicle for helping solve the scourge of opioid addiction he’d lamented in his memoir, “Hillbilly Elegy.”

apnews.com

An AP review found that the charity’s most notable accomplishment — sending an addiction specialist to Ohio’s Appalachian region for a yearlong residency — was tainted by ties among the doctor, the institute that employed her and Purdue Pharma, the manufacturer of OxyContin.​

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So he sent a doctor with ties to Purdue Pharma to help deal with drug addiction in Appalachia. hmmm

He does not seem stable to me.

 

[RileyG]

I think he is definitely controversial, but no worse than Trump. Trump, in my opinion, doesn't really represent most Republicans. Some Republicans even voted for the Democratic candidate over him.

I don't know.