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The Mark of the Beast Is ‘Active Even Now,’ Pastor Matt Chandler Says

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Texas Pastor Matt Chandler of The Village Church in Flower Mound recently shared why he believes the “mark of the beast,” as mentioned in the Bible in Revelation 13, is “active even now.” In a video posted to Instagram, Chandler spoke on the mark of the best and that people his age view it as a credit card, a phone, or a chip embedded in people’s hands. In his view, however, Chandler says that perspective is “to miss the point that’s being made” in Revelation.

“The perfect number is number seven, and so if seven is complete, six is incomplete,” he explained. “We also know that the number three means complete. And so 666, the mark of the beast, is really to show that the work of the enemy is completely—three sixes—incomplete. And so this is, really, what the enemy produces: complete incompleteness.”

The mark of the beast “is not Elon Musk putting something in our brains or something like that,” Chandler continued, noting the number 666 on people’s foreheads represents “ideological belief,” and the number on people’s hands depicts “the practice of that ideological belief.”
Chandler went on to contend that the mark of the beast is currently active in society.
“I think the way you’re even seeing this today,” he said, “is there are certain, especially in the business community now, ideological beliefs you must have in order to participate in the economy. And I think we’re going to see this get worse.”

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Yes the mark of the beast is active even now, but its something literally worn by sun worshippers for thousands of years... Be careful not to allegorize something that's meant to be taken literal. Read Ezekiel chapters 8-9. The infamous mark of the beast is the symbol of the occultic sun. 666 is the "grand number of the sun." It is the satanic symbol, not the tech combined with it, that makes it evil.
Neuralink is not the mark of the beast, but nevertheless incredibly dangerous. It is the epitome of the original sin- the fullness of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Though a different thing, it will surely come with the package...
 
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Texas Pastor Matt Chandler of The Village Church in Flower Mound recently shared why he believes the “mark of the beast,” as mentioned in the Bible in Revelation 13, is “active even now.” In a video posted to Instagram, Chandler spoke on the mark of the best and that people his age view it as a credit card, a phone, or a chip embedded in people’s hands. In his view, however, Chandler says that perspective is “to miss the point that’s being made” in Revelation.

“The perfect number is number seven, and so if seven is complete, six is incomplete,” he explained. “We also know that the number three means complete. And so 666, the mark of the beast, is really to show that the work of the enemy is completely—three sixes—incomplete. And so this is, really, what the enemy produces: complete incompleteness.”

The mark of the beast “is not Elon Musk putting something in our brains or something like that,” Chandler continued, noting the number 666 on people’s foreheads represents “ideological belief,” and the number on people’s hands depicts “the practice of that ideological belief.”
Chandler went on to contend that the mark of the beast is currently active in society.
“I think the way you’re even seeing this today,” he said, “is there are certain, especially in the business community now, ideological beliefs you must have in order to participate in the economy. And I think we’re going to see this get worse.”

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It is Bill Gates who is microdusting through vaccinations, food, etc {a receptor and sender}... look up patent #060606. If you were Bill Gates with a message that people with the "receptor" can hear, it might be received and you think these are your own thoughts, or thoughts from the devil depending on how you perceive them. But that microdust settles in the "temple" of the brain where decisions are made. the possiblities are enless as to what the outcome could be with a man like Bill Gates wanting the populationt to drop to 1/2 billion people world wide.
 
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Chandler continued, noting the number 666 on people’s foreheads represents “ideological belief,” and the number on people’s hands depicts “the practice of that ideological belief.”

I agree.

The Bible does depict this this way. The mark of the beast is the idealogical devotion to and practice of the world system which is in opposition to God.

As Jesus said, if you're not for me you're against me and He will spit the lukewarm out of His mouth, so to speak.

It's not a physical mark... it's the counterfeit of the seal of the Holy Spirit upon the believers.

This is actually why I was never vaccinated but I had a difficult time explaining it. But by the time I could have been vaccinated it was already symbolic of being aligned with the far left system which stands directly opposed to God.

Someone mentioned that to me after I shared my beliefs, they knew about them before talking to me and had wondered how many had my exact beliefs because with them the vaccine really is the mark of the beast.. it's symbolic of being loyal to their authority, and they have no authority over me that God doesn't give them.
 
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I agree.

The Bible does depict this this way. The mark of the beast is the idealogical devotion to and practice of the world system which is in opposition to God.

As Jesus said, if you're not for me you're against me and He will spit the lukewarm out of His mouth, so to speak.

It's not a physical mark... it's the counterfeit of the seal of the Holy Spirit upon the believers.

This is actually why I was never vaccinated but I had a difficult time explaining it. But by the time I could have been vaccinated it was already symbolic of being aligned with the far left system which stands directly opposed to God.

Someone mentioned that to me after I shared my beliefs, they knew about them before talking to me and had wondered how many had my exact beliefs because with them the vaccine really is the mark of the beast.. it's symbolic of being loyal to their authority, and they have no authority over me that God doesn't give them.
Hazelelponi, I find your thoughts confusing, thus your understanding of the "Mark" misses God's intended warning for His followers to avoid receiving it.

You quote Michie's post in which they qoute Chandler, having said, "the number 666 on people’s foreheads represents “ideological belief,” and the number on people’s hands depicts “the practice of that ideological belief.” Based on this quote then Chandler understands the "mark" to be physical. The first statement in your post is, "I agree". The forth line down in your post your state "It's not a physical mark..". Then in your last paragraph you state, "my exact beliefs because with them the vaccine [Covid] really is the mark of the beast.." which is why you you will not get vaccinated. Obviously the Covid Vaccine is physical, thus your understanding of the "Mark" would have to be physical, would it not? This is why I said your thoughts are confusing.

If you have read the many post of what individuals assume the " Mark of the Beast" to be, you will discover there is no consensus. The reason is very, very few understand that all apocalyptic prophecy is from God, and to understand it one must understand God's four natural laws of interpretation which He built into them, in order to correctly interpret them. The third one states: Apocalyptic prophecy [Daniel & Rev.] can be literal, symbolic, or analogous. To reach the intended meaning of a passage, the student must consider (a) the context, (b) the use of parallel language in the Bible, and (c) a relevant text that defines the symbol if an element is thought to be symbolic. Please note, that this law is forcing the Bible to interpret itself, which is what we should want. Right?

So based on this law, at (c) which I have bolden, where is there any "relevant text", that define the mark of the beast as pastor Chandler interprets it or as you, being a Covid Vaccine. Please understand, any interpretation that does not follow God's natural laws of interpretation are but private interpretations, based on individuals assumptions, of which there are hundreds.

Do you understand the chronology of Rev. 13? We have a beast coming up out of the sea, followed by a beast coming up out of the earth. It is the second best that forces the people of earth to take it's mark if one wishes to buy or sell. Do you know what each beast represents and if their appearance on the world scene is past or yet future? One would have to understand this correctly in order to understand the "Mark of the Beast don't you think?

What is your understanding of these two beast, and when did they, or will they appear on the world stage?
 
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If the mark of the beast were active now ,then why has this pastor not been beheaded for his witness of Jesus?

When the mark is given ,the saints are put in prison and killed for their witness of Jesus and for the word of God


Revelation 14
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
 
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Be careful not to allegorize something that's meant to be taken literal.
There are two identifiable "marks" in Revelation.

The sealing of the 144,000 jews is accomplished by a mark in the forehead in parallel fashion to the MARK of the beast in the forehead. (see Rev. 9:4 and Rev. 7:2-8 and Rev 14:1).

This mark must therefore also be Physical/Literal, no?

(Remember your own advice: Be careful not to allegorize something that's meant to be taken literal.)
 
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Do you understand the chronology of Rev. 13? We have a beast coming up out of the sea, followed by a beast coming up out of the earth. It is the second best that forces the people of earth to take it's mark if one wishes to buy or sell. Do you know what each best represents and if their appearance on the world scene is past or yet future? One would have to understand this correctly in order to understand the "Mark of
the Beast don't you think?
You are absolutely correct that the "mark" has to be understood in the context of which it is presented in Revelation 13 regarding those two Beasts - the Sea Beast and the Land Beast. In Rev. 13:14, the Land Beast did its wonders in the very eyesight (enopion)of the Sea Beast. That made these two Rev. 13 Beasts not only contemporaries, but actually sharing the same turf in some way.

We can identify who that Sea Beast was by the fact that the Dragon / Satan gave his throne to that Sea Beast in Rev. 13:2. And in Rev. 2:13, we are told that this throne of Satan was in the city of Pergamos. Significantly, the entire Pergamos kingdom as well as that throne in the city of Pergamos was given to the ancient Roman Republic back in 133 BC. The last king of the Pergamum kingdom, Attalus III, was dying with no heir to whom he could pass the kingdom to. So in his will, he bequeathed his whole Pergamum kingdom and the throne in Pergamos to his ally, the Roman Republic. That means the Rev. 13 Sea Beast was connected in some way with the ancient Roman Republic / empire.

So, the Land Beast of Rev. 13 was working in support of that ancient Roman Republic / empire in some way, and performing wonders in the same territory and under the actual eyesight of that Sea Beast. This two-horned Rev. 13 Land Beast who spoke lies like the Dragon was the Sadducee / Pharisee Judean religious leadership whose priesthood performed their temple rituals with the fire of God on the temple altar. That temple and the rituals performed there was in the direct line of sight of the Roman fortress of Antonia just across the way ("in the sight of the beast" - Rev. 13:14) where Jerusalem's Roman troops were garrisoned.

The priesthood of Israel back in 19 BC had requested permission from Rome to mint their own currency for use in the temple. Rome agreed to allow this unusual request by a subjugated nation under their rule, as long as that coin retained the Tyrian shekel images and inscriptions that gave homage to Rome's gods and the pagan city of Tyre, as well as having the initials "KP" (standing for "Kratos Romaion"). These stamped "KP" initials on the reverse side of these Tyrian shekel copies meant that the Jews were only issuing those coins by the power granted to them by Rome.

The Rev. 13 Land Beast priesthood required that this Tyrian shekel coin with its images and inscriptions giving homage to Rome and its gods be the only currency allowed in the temple for buying or selling sacrificial items for worship. All other foreign currency brought by people from other nations for temple transactions had to be exchanged for this required Tyrian shekel coin - for a fee which the money-changers charged for this "exchange service". This abominable practice (of the priesthood making vast profits from the worship of the people by requiring that Tyrian shekel with its abominable, forbidden images and inscriptions) was what made Christ Jesus so angry that He made a whip of cords and drove the money-changers from the temple, accusing them of making His Father's house "a den of thieves". Those abominable images and inscriptions were forbidden by God, all the way back in Deuteronomy 7:25-26. In spite of God's command against this kind of idolatry, the immense profits the priesthood was making off this practice made them ignore God's commands about this. "Follow the money" has always been a key to the root cause of all kinds of sinful activity.

This requirement to use the abominable Tyrian shekel giving homage to the ancient Roman phase of the Sea Beast and its gods went out of practice in AD 66. That is because the Zealot rebellion against Rome was launched in AD 66, and the Zealots began minting their own currency at that point, with the inscription "for the redemption of Zion" on them instead.

That means the Rev. 13 Land Beast's "mark" requirement for buying and selling is long since gone from history since AD 66. This "mark" giving homage to ancient Rome will not be appearing again, since there is no longer a two-horned Land Beast with its Pharisee / Sadducee power structure and a high priesthood that could demand such a thing of all people coming to a non-existent temple.
 
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Three Resurrection, you state: The Rev. 13 Land Beast priesthood required that this Tyrian shekel coin with its images and inscriptions giving homage to Rome and its gods be the only currency allowed in the temple for buying or selling sacrificial items for worship. "That means the Rev. 13 Land Beast's "mark" requirement for buying and selling is long since gone from history since AD 66."

If the AD 66 date is correct for ending the Tyrian Shekel, which was four years before the temple was destroyed in AD 70. The book of Rev. is generally understood to have been written in AD 90, twenty years latter. With your interpretation, and these facts, it makes no sense for God to give prophetic warning as to the rise of a beast out of the earth witch would force the people of earth to set up an "image" to the beast from the sea, and this "image" then implements the "mark" in order for people to buy and sell.

Do you see the problem with your interpretation?
 
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If the AD 66 date is correct for ending the Tyrian Shekel, which was four years before the temple was destroyed in AD 70. The book of Rev. is generally understood to have been written in AD 90, twenty years latter. With your interpretation, and these facts, it makes no sense for God to give prophetic warning as to the rise of a beast out of the earth witch would force the people of earth to set up an "image" to the beast from the sea, and this "image" then implements the "mark" in order for people to buy and sell.

Do you see the problem with your interpretation?
There is no problem. The book of Revelation was NOT written in AD 90. That late date is not a fact. The internal evidence of datable events within Revelation itself narrows down the composition of the book to a time frame somewhere between late AD 59 and no later than early AD 60 - just prior to the catastrophic AD 60 Laodicean earthquake. It doesn't matter what external sources are "generally understood" to say about the composition date of Revelation if this imminent AD 60 Laodicean earthquake and other datable events within the book itself contradict that late-date theory.

Aside from pinning down the composition date of Revelation, the book's prophecies are not all related to future events. In Revelation 1:19, John was told to write "the things thou hast seen" (in the past), "the things that are" (things presently going on in John's days), and "the things that are ABOUT TO BE hereafter" (events in John's immediate future). The Tyrian shekel "mark" for Temple use was something that had begun being required in the past since 19 BC, was still presently being required in John's days in AD 59 / 60, and would yet continue in the immediate future to be required until AD 66 when the Zealot rebellion broke out against Rome.

As for the Rev. 13 Sea Beast, it had originated back in ancient days, starting with Nebuchadnezzar's first deportation of Jewish nobility from Jerusalem to Babylon back in 607 BC. We know this Rev. 13 Sea Beast is this ancient because Rev. 13:2 tells us that it had those combined features of a "lion", "bear", and a "leopard" - all of which were related to the ancient pagan empires of Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece respectively.

The Rev. 13 Beast which had come out of the land (of Israel) was the corrupt religious leadership with its two-horned Pharisee / Sadducee power structure which had been requiring that Tyrian shekel to be used for Temple transactions and for the annual Temple Tax payment. That Rev. 13 Judean Land Beast with its corrupt religious leadership spoke lies, just like the Dragon, as Christ accused them of being liars just like their Father the Devil. The priesthood's Tyrian shekel coin requirement was minted for the Temple's use by permission from Rome, and it had Rome's demi-god Hercules on the obverse side and the stamped "KP" initials on the reverse, showing that Rome had authorized its production. Rev. 13 was not a warning that this Land Beast would arise and require a "mark" giving homage to the Roman phase of the Sea Beast ; Rev. 13 was making a statement of a present, ongoing reality for Israel in John's days.

Every time an Israelite paid that onerous fee to the money-changers for exchanging other currency for the required Tyrian shekel, they were given a grim reminder once again that Rome held control over their own temple's priesthood, which was operating in conjunction with their Roman overlords. This caused their own people to participate in a practice that broke God's laws and gave homage to Rome and its pagan gods in the process.
 
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`He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.

He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one buy or sell except one who has the mark or name of the beast, or the number of His name...` (rev. 13: 15 - 17)


Not seeing that yet. Yes, the lead up but not the actual having to worship the A/C or get the mark etc.
 
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Where is Pergamos ?
The ancient city of Pergamos is now present-day Bergama in Turkey. But many claim (as I also agree is very likely) that the "throne of Satan" in Pergamos where Antipas was martyred was the ancient altar to Zeus in Pergamos that was one of the seven wonders of the world in its time. This 40' tall altar of Pergamos was excavated and the sections taken to Berlin to be re-assembled, where it now resides in the Pergamos Museum.
 
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`He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.

He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one buy or sell except one who has the mark or name of the beast, or the number of His name...` (rev. 13: 15 - 17)


Not seeing that yet. Yes, the lead up but not the actual having to worship the A/C or get the mark etc.
The Rev. 13 Sea Beast was NOT said to be the Antichrist. That Antichrist was to be a single man who denied that Jesus was the fulfillment of the prophesied Messiah who had come in the flesh as the incarnate Son of God. That single man as the Antichrist would come out from among those of John's first-century readers (1 John 2:18-19).

The Rev. 13 Sea Beast had "the name of a man" because it was Nebuchadnezzar as the head of the "lion" empire who actually began that Sea Beast's existence, 666 YEARS before John was writing Revelation. Daniel described the start of this "lion" empire in Daniel 7:4, where that lion with eagle's wings was "made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it." Also, Daniel 2's statue of a man composed of different metals was yet another representation of all the pagan empires since Babylon who had held control over the nation of Israel over the centuries. Revelation 13's presentation of the Sea Beast was composed of this conglomerate collection of ancient pagan empires.

Lots of interpretation confusion results when the Antichrist starts getting mistaken for another evil character in scripture.

But if you are thinking that the Rev. 13 Land Beast who would "give breath to the image of the beast" is an actual statue of a man coming to human life with actual vocal cords that could utter speech - this is symbolism instead. Just as the blood of the slain Abel cried unto God from the ground (but not actually). Neither did Abel "being dead yet speaketh" mean that the dead Abel's vocal cords were actually uttering speech. The power to "speak" in Rev. 13:15 was the Sea Beast's power to issue edicts.

Revelation 13:1 already said that the Sea Beast had seven heads (the 7 hills Rome sat upon) and 10 crowned horns (the 10 Roman emperors who composed the last Roman phase of the Sea Beast's existence). And in Rev. 13:5, this Sea Beast was given a mouth "speaking great things and blasphemies". That mouth uttering blasphemies against God (the decrees issued by one of the 10 Roman emperor horns) would be allowed by God to wage war for 42 months against the believers, and to overcome them. That was emperor Nero's vicious imperial persecution of the saints for the 42 months from late AD 64 until AD 68, just before Nero's suicide death.

In those first-century days, the Rev. 13 Judean Land Beast was cooperating with that final Roman phase of the Sea Beast's existence with their own requirement to give homage to Rome via the Tyrian shekel. This was in direct disobedience to God's OT commands against those idolatrous images which gave homage to Rome and its pagan gods. The Sea Beast with Nero on the throne at the time of John's writing Revelation (around AD 60) would soon begin in AD 64 putting multitudes of Christians to death by a variety of horrible methods.

Yet the laws of the Judean Land Beast's priesthood requiring the use of the Tyrian shekel was giving honor to that Sea Beast who would soon be making martyrs of many Christians. Anyone who opposed the Rev. 13 Judean Land Beast in whatever laws it put in place to govern those in Israel was put under a ban. This was quite literally a death sentence (as in Rev. 13:15), since no one was allowed in any way to support that banned person or their livelihood. This is what caused "the fear of the Jews" that scripture speaks of. To be "cast out of the synagogue" for opposing the priesthood and its laws in those days amounted to being put to death for that opposition.
 
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The ancient city of Pergamos is now present-day Bergama in Turkey. But many claim (as I also agree is very likely) that the "throne of Satan" in Pergamos where Antipas was martyred was the ancient altar to Zeus in Pergamos that was one of the seven wonders of the world in its time. This 40' tall altar of Pergamos was excavated and the sections taken to Berlin to be re-assembled, where it now resides in the Pergamos Museum.
Thanks for this info @3 Resurrections .
Wasn't it Hitler who had part of the throne of Satan shipped to Berlin ?
 
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Thanks for this info @3 Resurrections .
Wasn't it Hitler who had part of the throne of Satan shipped to Berlin ?
I'm not certain if it was his stated purpose, but under Hitler's watch, parts of that Pergamos altar began to be smuggled into Germany by German excavators. Stolen, really, from their in situ location.
 
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Lots of interpretation confusion results when the Antichrist starts getting mistaken for another evil character in scripture.

Jesus Claims there will be many AC's to come.

Matthew 24:24
For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible.
 
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Jesus Claims there will be many AC's to come.

Matthew 24:24
For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible.
That prediction concerning the false christs was already fulfilled back in the first century, with some of them even showing up in the book of Acts.

If you read the description of where Christ said those various antichrists / false christs would be claimed to appear was "in the secret chambers" (Matt. 24:26). These "secret chambers" were part of the Old Jerusalem temple, which had what was called "the chamber of secrets" where anonymous donations for the poor could be collected and then dispersed to the poor anonymously at intervals.

Once the temple of Jerusalem was torn down, there was no way that any false prophet could possibly be claiming that their particular "christ" would be in the secret chambers of a destroyed Jerusalem temple. That means Christ's prophecy concerning those false christs had to be fulfilled before AD 70 when the temple with its "secret chambers" was torn down to the last stone.

1 John 2:18-19 wrote that many antichrists had already gone out from among them at that time. And Paul wrote that he had already personally told the Thessalonians of the identity of both the restrainer and the Man of Lawlessness he was then restraining. I believe that first-century "Man of Lawlessness" was the Antichrist foretold to come. He existed under restraint in Paul's days, and was about to emerge to power in AD 66, just before Paul's AD 67 martyrdom.
 
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That prediction concerning the false christs was already fulfilled back in the first century, with some of them even showing up in the book of Acts.

If you read the description of where Christ said those various antichrists / false christs would be claimed to appear was "in the secret chambers" (Matt. 24:26). These "secret chambers" were part of the Old Jerusalem temple, which had what was called "the chamber of secrets" where anonymous donations for the poor could be collected and then dispersed to the poor anonymously at intervals.

Once the temple of Jerusalem was torn down, there was no way that any false prophet could possibly be claiming that their particular "christ" would be in the secret chambers of a destroyed Jerusalem temple. That means Christ's prophecy concerning those false christs had to be fulfilled before AD 70 when the temple with its "secret chambers" was torn down to the last stone.

1 John 2:18-19 wrote that many antichrists had already gone out from among them at that time. And Paul wrote that he had already personally told the Thessalonians of the identity of both the restrainer and the Man of Lawlessness he was then restraining. I believe that first-century "Man of Lawlessness" was the Antichrist foretold to come. He existed under restraint in Paul's days, and was about to emerge to power in AD 66, just before Paul's AD 67 martyrdom.

So what your saying Revelation has been & gone :confused:
 
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