Project 2025 is NOT the Trump plan - do not get mislead

[JustOneWay]

Still does not change the facts

1. Project 2025 is NOT from Trump’s nor the RNC

Irrelevant. It was made for rightists by rightists, and the rightists are approving of the Project.

We know Trump did not write it or have a hand in preparing it because he has no ideas other than grifting and making himself the center of attention.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Irrelevant. It was made for rightists by rightists, and the rightists are approving of the Project.

Completely relevant. If the candidate does not endorse it. If the political party does not endorse it. If on the very site itself states not even all their member agree.

It means it is not his. That is the simple reality of it.

We know Trump did not write it or have a hand in preparing it because he has no ideas other than grifting and making himself the center of attention.

That level of bias does not equate with factual accuracy. Personal animosity tends to make us intellectually dishonest. So we can justify our animosity. It is self defeating in the end.

 

[Bradskii]

Still does not change the facts

1. Project 2025 is NOT from Trump’s nor the RNC

That is SO naive. You are being taken for a ride, you are being lied to and treated as a fool. And in any case, why would you try to deny it? Do you want to criticise it here and now? Tell us why you don't want Trump associated with with it?

Nah, you won't. Because the guy may come out and support that which you dismiss. And then where would you be..?

 

[perplexed]

The project 2025 website has not made a press release since February,
It seems some left wing media started really focusing on it about a month ago about so Trump is trying to shut it down without giving specifics,

 

[DaisyDay]

“I know nothing about Project 2025,” Trump posted on his social media website. “I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they’re saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them.”

Which specific parts of the project does he disagree with? What specifically does he find absolutely ridiculous and abysmal?

 

[RDKirk]

That's the spirit! Vote Joe, the first black...woman....President...End of quote. Repeat the line...Biden.
Lol.

Well, to be sure, a vote for Biden is a vote for Harris. Let's not kid ourselves.

 

[RDKirk]

Completely relevant. If the candidate does not endorse it. If the political party does not endorse it. If on the very site itself states not even all their member agree.

It means it is not his. That is the simple reality of it.

That level of bias does not equate with factual accuracy. Personal animosity tends to make us intellectually dishonest. So we can justify our animosity. It is self defeating in the end.

One could say the same thing about the Biden/Harris Administration and Marxism. Biden is not Marxist and Trump is not fascist, but the Biden Administration is full of Marxists and a Trump administration would be full of fascists.

I'm still trying to figure out which one in another four years will foul up the nation beyond recovery.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Sounds like project 2025 was cooked up to damage the Trump campaign.

Lol. Maybe read up on the people behind it first. They’re all on your side of the aisle.

The Heritage Foundation - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[DaisyDay]

Read my signature

Blessings to you too!

An honest person is at a disadvantage to a liar as they have far more constraints on them. And if they are called out on a lie? No matter because everybody lies!

 

[DaisyDay]

Still does not change the facts

1. Project 2025 is NOT from Trump’s nor the RNC

The RNC is Trump's.

 

[Merrill]

I suggest going to the Project 2025 site and reading the actual document vs. going to sites like Wikipedia to get a summary.

why?

Because Wikipedia makes claims about what the Project says without even referencing the original documents. On Climate Change, for instance, it states:

"Project 2025 advises a future Republican president to go further than merely nullifying President Biden's executive orders on climate change.[67] It proposes abandoning strategies for reducing greenhouse gas emissions responsible for climate change, including by repealing regulations that curb emissions, downsizing the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), and abolishing the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), which the project calls "one of the main drivers of the climate change alarm industry."[36][126][127][128]"

see all of those notations? None of them come from the original document or site --they are all from far-left, partisan magazines, blogs, and websites (Guardian UK, Politico opinion pieces, etc)

Now I am sure I disagree with much of Project 2025, but I would point out that

1. Probably not a single left-winger on this site has read the original document or has even been to the site
2. The Heritage Foundation does not create the GOP platform for 2024
3. This document is basically a "wish-list" and contains provisions and objectives which will never be enacted. Even things that make it into the GOP platform will not be enacted.

Remember the DNC platform for 2020? That called for the creation of a "Universal Healthcare System" through a Public Option --that never happened, and there wasn't even an attempt to do that by Biden or anyone else.

 

[JustOneWay]

1. Probably not a single left-winger on this site has read the original document or has even been to the site

This is a lie. I have been to the site numerous times, as others have as well. Why say such a thing? Probably doesn't cut it.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Still does not change the facts

1. Project 2025 is NOT from Trump’s nor the RNC

They are all Republicans who support Trump. I'm confused. Is this yet another wing of the far right?
Thanks for clarifying!

 

[durangodawood]

Please - let's be intellectually honest .

Then dont quote Trump as if his word can be trusted.

 

[eleos1954]

“I know nothing about Project 2025,” Trump posted on his social media website. “I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they’re saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them.”

Trump Disavows Project 2025 Transition Plan

Donald Trump distanced himself Friday from Project 2025, a massive proposed overhaul of the federal government.

time.com

Trump has outlined his own plans to remake the government if he wins a second term, including staging the largest deportation operation in U.S. history and imposing tariffs on potentially all imports. His campaign has previously warned outside allies not to presume to speak for the former president and suggested their transition-in-waiting efforts were unhelpful.

You can also plainly see that the Project 2025 is not from the Trump Campaign nor is it from the Republican National Convention. Nor is Project 2025 endorsed by Trump nor the Republican Party.

It is the result of a think tank and not even all it's members agree with it.

Advisory Board | Project 2025

GET INVOLVED Does your organization want to join us in the fight for our country? Join Us

www.project2025.org

Project 2025, organized by The Heritage Foundation, is a movement-wide effort guided by the conservative cause to address and reform the failings of big government and an undemocratic administrative state. The opinions of Project 2025 and The Heritage Foundation do not necessarily represent the opinions of every one of its advisory board partners.​

Please - let's be intellectually honest .

It's the media and the democratic party that is pushing this narrative of Project 2025 ... it is not Trumps agenda. It is agenda 2047

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47

 

[eleos1954]

I suggest going to the Project 2025 site and reading the actual document vs. going to sites like Wikipedia to get a summary.

why?

Because Wikipedia makes claims about what the Project says without even referencing the original documents. On Climate Change, for instance, it states:

"Project 2025 advises a future Republican president to go further than merely nullifying President Biden's executive orders on climate change.[67] It proposes abandoning strategies for reducing greenhouse gas emissions responsible for climate change, including by repealing regulations that curb emissions, downsizing the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), and abolishing the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), which the project calls "one of the main drivers of the climate change alarm industry."[36][126][127][128]"

see all of those notations? None of them come from the original document or site --they are all from far-left, partisan magazines, blogs, and websites (Guardian UK, Politico opinion pieces, etc)

Now I am sure I disagree with much of Project 2025, but I would point out that

1. Probably not a single left-winger on this site has read the original document or has even been to the site
2. The Heritage Foundation does not create the GOP platform for 2024
3. This document is basically a "wish-list" and contains provisions and objectives which will never be enacted. Even things that make it into the GOP platform will not be enacted.

Remember the DNC platform for 2020? That called for the creation of a "Universal Healthcare System" through a Public Option --that never happened, and there wasn't even an attempt to do that by Biden or anyone else.

This is Trumps agenda ... Agenda 2047 NOT 2025

 

[Merrill]

Trump writes on his site

"President Trump will support nuclear energy production, which reached a record high during his administration, by modernizing the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, working to keep existing power plants open, and investing in innovative small modular reactors."

which is music to my ears.

Project 2025 should be ignored --Trump has his actual agenda on his site, and much of it is good (although I disagree with some of it)

 

[durangodawood]

Trump writes on his site

"President Trump will support nuclear energy production, which reached a record high during his administration, by modernizing the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, working to keep existing power plants open, and investing in innovative small modular reactors."

which is music to my ears.

Project 2025 should be ignored --Trump has his actual agenda on his site, and much of it is good (although I disagree with some of it)

Thats a goal I would definitely agree with. And based on Trumps past record, I would believe he supports it.

But "Trump writes" is worth zero on its own. We need to look at Trumps record, including his staffing decisions, to decide what to believe about him. And former staffers seem to have their fingers all over Project 2025.

 

[ozso]

Lol. Maybe read up on the people behind it first. They’re all on your side of the aisle.

The Heritage Foundation - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Yeah never heard of sabotage from within before. Besides it's just some private organization. There's probably some off the wall private organization on your side of the isle as well.

 

[Always in His Presence]

That is SO naive. You are being taken for a ride, you are being lied to and treated as a fool. And in any case, why would you try to deny it?

I am not denying anything - i am pointing out an inconvenient (to the left) truth. Supporting it with facts instead of animosity based hearsay and innuendo.

Do you want to criticise it here and now?

That is not the purpose of the thread - let's stay on topic - which is that Project 2025 is not supported nor endorsed by Trump, nor the Republican National Convention.

Tell us why you don't want Trump associated with with it?

I have not said I wanted him to, or did not want him to That is not the purpose of the thread - let's stay on topic - which is that Project 2025 is not supported nor endorsed by Trump, nor the Republican National Convention

Nah, you won't. Because the guy may come out and support that which you dismiss. And then where would you be..?

That is not the purpose of the thread - let's stay on topic - which is that Project 2025 is not supported nor endorsed by Trump, nor the Republican National Convention.

Which specific parts of the project does he disagree with? What specifically does he find absolutely ridiculous and abysmal?

It is very easy - both Trump's policies and Project 2025 are very accessible and easily found. Do you own home work and see the difference - do not take my word - nor anyone else - think for yourself - it's the best way.

The RNC is Trump's.

Right and neither one as supporting or endorsing Project 2025.

As badly as the left wants to make the connect - reality it is - it is not there. Not endorsed or supported.